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winky51
06-28-2005, 08:37 PM
Moved up from 3/6 to 5/10 recently. Was doing really well at 3/6. FInally ran into some tricky bastards there but managed. I am not making the money I should be. I noticed its pretty aggressive PF with a raise almost every hand. Very few multiways and you don't get paid as often. I find players are trying to steal blinds with real crap hands like T7s, 96s, J9s from MP1, 2 and 3 so I am adjusting.
only 1800 hands but

VPIP 14.21
VPIP-SB 19.51
Folded to BB steal 55%
Att to steal 30%
WON$WSF 34.59
PFR 8.82%
See Flop 16.4%
TAD 2.44


Any suggestions for 5/10 on PP?

aK13
06-28-2005, 08:39 PM
14 VPIP = t3h sux.

winky51
06-28-2005, 08:53 PM
AND dont say "that sucks" give suggestions!

I don't need critics I would like advise.

aK13
06-28-2005, 08:58 PM
You're way too tight. Play more hands, loosen up your opening standards as you move closer to the button (you should know this already). The number should be at least 18%. You're missing out on 4% of your profitable hands.

What's your WtSD and W$SD (just for the record)?

sweetjazz
06-28-2005, 09:01 PM
You only have 1800 hands. It takes more hands than that to adjust.

You misspelled advice.

There's not much that can be deduced from your stats alone.

You're playing too tight or are pretty cold decked so far.

The most important thing you can do is (1) continue observing your opponents, making notes and adapting your play to counteract their strategic errors; (2) stop posting stats after 1800 hands and instead post hands where you weren't confident in the line you chose, as well as commenting on other hands.

aK13
06-28-2005, 09:04 PM
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I am not making the money I should be.

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Oh yeah, this comment is pretty questionable.

sy_or_bust
06-28-2005, 09:11 PM
As you move up limits, playing rock-tight becomes less of a winning strategy. My 5/10-10/20 VP$IP is 20-22. If you're used to playing so tightly, 18 should be fine. Start raising KQo UTG, especially at a tight-ish table, and look for spots to raise first-in. You should start "stealing" from the hijack when the conditions are right also.

winky51
06-28-2005, 11:10 PM
Guess I am just running cold then. My usual game is around 18%-20% see flop at 3/6. And I am raising UTG with KQ on the tighter 5/10 tables. I have actually been looking for excuses to raise in position. But no real hands have materialized to allow me to do so.

I am noticing that players raising in the CO have probably 2 face, maybe a high suited connector, or even high suited 1-2 gap connectors. But when I am drawing KTo, 96s, T3o in the SB I can't call. Generally you need a really good hand to reraise in the SB. BB I try and call with any reasonable hand. Suited, str8 possibilities, Axs, any pair.

I am reraising late positon players with hands like 88, KQ, AQ and such. Just have not had the opportunity to do so. I think the players play bad still but have better selection of hands. They are more aggressive with bluffs and raising in position with crappy hands but they don't go insane with pure bluffs betting and capping all the way through like I find at 3/6 on some occations. Usually their bluffs have some real outs like a gut straight. But they still call down without pot odds on 4 and 5 outers. I notice the 5/10 players try to steal with hands like T7s, J8s, 44, A7o from MP2 or later. So I have been adjusting my calls and raises accordingly.

Its interesting noting the differences between 3/6 and 5/10. I find I can use more of the tactics in TH4AP at 5/10 than 3/6. I starting to get the feeling that these players can actually fold to a bluff unlike the lower limits. I tested it out some against some very aggressive players and was surprised when they did fold.

Well the advice is real helpful and started verifying my suspicions on the differences between 2/4, 3/6, and 5/10. I will keep playing and learning. It is a big difference from 3/6 and 2/4