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Unarmed

06-28-2005, 03:48 PM

No reads. UTG+1 doubled up some donkey with QQ versus TT.
Turn is pretty standard I think, the river is where I'm questioning myself. Should I let him bet his clubs? He may also be on a lesser pair and just check it through, and I really don't want to show this hand down...

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t15 (8 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

SB (t975)
Hero (t960)
UTG (t585)
UTG+1 (t2245)
MP1 (t960)
MP2 (t1130)
CO (t1000)
Button (t2145)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 6/images/graemlins/spade.gif, J/images/graemlins/club.gif.
1 fold, UTG+1 calls t15, MP1 calls t15, 3 folds, SB completes, Hero checks.

Flop: (t57.50) 5/images/graemlins/club.gif, 9/images/graemlins/club.gif, K/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (4 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, UTG+1 checks, MP1 checks.

Turn: (t57.50) 8/images/graemlins/heart.gif (4 players)
SB checks, Hero bets t45, UTG+1 calls t45, MP1 folds, SB folds.

River: (t147.50) J/images/graemlins/heart.gif (2 players)
Hero bets t75, UTG+1 folds.

kyro

06-28-2005, 03:52 PM

How is the turn standard? You're betting into 2 people with one behind with nothing but a gutshot. The pot is hardly worth it. If I do that and make it to the river, well I've hit one of my outs, I'm probably betting/folding to a raise.

Unarmed

06-28-2005, 03:55 PM

If MP1 or UTG+1 had a hand they would have bet on the flop to protect their hand. If SB was sandbagging a monster he would have lead the turn. This bet picks up the pot a large percentage of the time.

kyro

06-28-2005, 03:58 PM

I don't say this enough, but you vastly overestimate the intelligence of your opponents. Even at the 109s I would not be shocked to find out one of them had a 9 or K and will call you down to the river.

The Yugoslavian

06-28-2005, 04:05 PM

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If MP1 or UTG+1 had a hand they would have bet on the flop to protect their hand. If SB was sandbagging a monster he would have lead the turn. This bet picks up the very insignificant pot a large percentage of the time.

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Yeah, so basically you just don't need to really do much here with so many in the hand with you...too much of the time someone sticks out the hand against you with a middle pair or weak top pair. You're going to have a hard time getting more chips into this pot (making it worth taking down) without having the worst hand...

I say just keep checking and make them feel your presence at a different time.

Yugoslav

kyro

06-28-2005, 04:06 PM

yugo, you feeling alright? you forgot to say "die in your sleep" or something like that.

The Yugoslavian

06-28-2005, 04:08 PM

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yugo, you feeling alright? you forgot to say "die in your sleep" or something like that.

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Naw, I have no animosity towards Unarmed, /images/graemlins/grin.gif.

Sucks doesn't it, /images/graemlins/confused.gif.

Yugoslav
 But I'll make sure xPun rapes and mutilates 50 other forum members as a sacrificial gesture for my trying to post about actual strategy/tactics