BB raise with A9o

[Willluck]

Party 3/6
Hero is BB w/ A /images/graemlins/spade.gif9 /images/graemlins/heart.gif
folded around to CO who limps, SB calls, <font color="red"> hero raises </font> ...

[brettbrettr]

Maybe. If you know they'll fold. One limper, sure. Two gets a bit dicier but, still, seems fine.

[dingbet]

I don't think you have enough pot equity to make a raise here. You could have the best hand, still I wouldn't raise. Also depends on the nature of the CO, the more loose/passive he is, the more a raise is in the cards, more so if your A9 are suited.

[Nick C]

Yeah, I think this is all right.

Your opponents probably don't have particularly good hands, and the raise does put pressure on them to hit the flop.

Just checking also seems okay to me. Your actual edge probably isn't that big here, and it's possible you'll be able to steal on the flop anyway if your opponents miss.

[Willluck]

Pokerstove results.
98,011,652,508 games 255.347 secs 383,837,102 games/sec



equity (%) win (%) tie (%)
Hand 1: 42.2965 % 41.28% 01.01% { A9o }
Hand 2: 28.8805 % 28.15% 00.73% {random }
Hand 3: 28.8230 % 27.49% 01.34% {random }

[ArturiusX]

I like it, because SB will check, you'll bet, and they'll both fold even if you miss.

[SinCityGuy]

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I like it, because SB will check, you'll bet, and they'll both fold even if you miss.

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I guess you haven't played much Party 3/6.

[Paxosmotic]

I think this is gonna be an expensive resteal if you can pull it off. You're probably going to have to 3-bet the flop and lead the turn before you convince anyone you've got something hot, and that's assuming they don't get a massive piece of the flop as well. I don't think you have the equity here to push.

Edit : Why do you think they're limping with random hands? They're not. Random hands includes such gems as 93o and J5s, which are probably not getting limped here.

[jason_t]

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Pokerstove results.
98,011,652,508 games 255.347 secs 383,837,102 games/sec



equity (%) win (%) tie (%)
Hand 1: 42.2965 % 41.28% 01.01% { A9o }
Hand 2: 28.8805 % 28.15% 00.73% {random }
Hand 3: 28.8230 % 27.49% 01.34% {random }

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I've said this before: using Poker Stove to make preflop decisions, especially of this type, is wrong.

[HajiShirazu]

Why is the first person only half as likely to split as the second?

[Petro]

It's probably a Monte Carlo simulation, which will have some small variations due to chance.

Or Player 3 might really suck.

[Willluck]

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Why do you think they're limping with random hands? They're not. Random hands includes such gems as 93o and J5s, which are probably not getting limped here.


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but at the same time they aren't limping with hands like AK-8 and 99-AA

[halis123456789]

Yeah, seriously man, even in UltimateBet 2/4 it is not that simple.

The CO has position on you and you're putting more money in the pot w/ a marginal hand...boy that can make later decisions a lot tougher.

This also gives the other two players the added benefit of knowing you have some kind of hand (possibly be careful of an Ace flopping.)

And they are most likely NOT going to fold, either one. If you miss and the CO catches a piece of the flop and he's ANY kind of player you're getting raised. Fun! If the SB catches a piece, count on being check-raised. More fun!

Have fun!

Actually, having said all that I think the plays are not too far apart, but raising is definitely worse.

[Nick C]

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Why do you think they're limping with random hands? They're not. Random hands includes such gems as 93o and J5s, which are probably not getting limped here.


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but at the same time they aren't limping with hands like AK-8 and 99-AA

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I don't know. At Party 3/6, it's a pretty popular play these days (especially the AA/KK limp).

Edit: Still, your opponents' hands probably are pretty mediocre. (All but the biggest hands in the AK-A8 and AA-99 ranges probably would not have been limped/completed, whereas a bunch of speculative hands would have been.)