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CardSleuth
06-26-2005, 10:46 AM
I was playing at a 2-4 limit table the other night when I was involved in a hand with 2 other players. After the river was dealt the board had Quad 7's and a Q. I was on the button with AJo and the guy acting first bet, the second player folded and I raised. The guy who bet first got mad and said that my raise was stupid and a waste of time sinse it was obvious that we both had Aces and would split the pot.

I thought it was the correct play because I was not risking anything by raising and could only gain an extra bet if he did not have an Ace.

The only waste of time I could see about that play was waiting for him to finish his minute long inane rant.

Would any of you just called in that spot?

Masquerade
06-26-2005, 10:48 AM
I always just call on river when I have the nuts.

Kevroc
06-26-2005, 11:31 AM
if the rake was already capped, keep raising, otherwise you feed the rake but, hey id prolly keep raising too anyways....

ggbman
06-26-2005, 11:35 AM
I'd nicely tell him to chill out, and then i'd beat his ass. No seriosuly, you should definitly raise there.

jman220
06-26-2005, 12:30 PM
And if the rake was not already capped, he's an idiot for not 3-betting you.

ChuckyB
06-26-2005, 06:52 PM
We had a bizarre one in a 3/6 game at the casino. The board had quad 9s and an ace. Three people in at the river. One woman bet, next player raised, third player re-raised, then the original bettor folded. (!)

Never hurts to bet in that situation (unless you think he has 3 queens in the hole).

Guthrie
06-27-2005, 01:10 PM
How is it obvious that you both have aces? Keep raising until you can't anymore. More than once I've pushed people off a multi-way split just because they don't know any better. I don't mind charging them for a poker lesson.

The_Missile
06-27-2005, 01:18 PM
You obviously have the nuts here. Quads on board with a Q, and you have an ace, clearly you have the hand won, if not a split pot. Raise and keep raising until you can't raise any more. The only real question is- how did you hang around with AJ if there was 2 or 3 7 on the board after the flop?

speirs
06-27-2005, 03:59 PM
Kick his ass

pryor15
06-27-2005, 04:01 PM
did he have an ace?

MustangMarc
06-27-2005, 04:23 PM
What I think is funny is that he thought his bet was OK, but your raise was not.

Some (most?) players are quick to analyze and judge harshly the play of others, but leave their own play unexamined.

CardSleuth
06-27-2005, 08:22 PM
I did not even think about the rake. It might have been capped with his river bet and my call.

Yes, he did have an ace.

Missle - The flop was 3 7's and was checked to me and I checked on the flop. The Q came on the turn and it was checked to me again. I felt like betting here because I had not seen a check raise out of either player left in the pot. I ended up checking and the river was dealt the 4th 7.

Critiquing of my play is most welcome.

Two lessons learned. Raise with the nuts and never forget the rake. I have never really payed much attention to the rake but will from here on out.

Thanks to all who responded.

On a side note - Thinking about the situation later, I don't think he ever officially called. I didn't hear him say call or see him push in more chips. He just held his ace up and started ranting how stupid the raise was. He eventually put his card on the table. Could I have insisted that he mucked his hand because he never said call or pushed in his chips?

speirs
06-28-2005, 02:05 AM
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Could I have insisted that he mucked his hand because he never said call or pushed in his chips?

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That would be so cool. You'd be my new hero.

JohnnyHumongous
06-28-2005, 03:54 AM
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What I think is funny is that he thought his bet was OK, but your raise was not.

Some (most?) players are quick to analyze and judge harshly the play of others, but leave their own play unexamined.

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LOL, yeah, one time months ago on Party the board was four Jacks by the turn, I capped the turn with an Ace in my hand and led out/3-bet the river. The girl raising back at me was berating me by the river, about how it was obvious we both had Aces and I was just feeding the rake (?), all I could think was, um, it takes two to tango... I can't raise without you also raising. The irony was palpable to say the least.

As long as you're gonna keep reopening the betting for me I will raise this to the felt for the 0.02% chance you don't also have an Ace...

Klepton
06-28-2005, 04:38 AM
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Could I have insisted that he mucked his hand because he never said call or pushed in his chips?

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That would be so cool. You'd be my new hero.

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i would have done this, then bought drinks for the table with the money and tipped the waitress and dealer the rest.

speirs
06-28-2005, 04:50 AM
/images/graemlins/grin.gif Hahaha great! How to get people on tilt...

stankphish
06-28-2005, 12:28 PM
Call hands dead when their foolish owner triumphantly slams their full house on the board.