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GutPunch

06-26-2005, 06:05 AM

1)
Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t100 (4 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

BB (t3320)
Hero (t1780)
Button (t1300)
SB (t1600)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with 8/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 8/images/graemlins/heart.gif.
Hero raises to t300, 1 fold, SB calls t250, BB calls t200.

Flop: (t900) 9/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, K/images/graemlins/spade.gif, K/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (3 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets t400, SB raises to t800, BB folds, Hero ??

2)

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MP (t705)
Button (t3240)
SB (t1335)
Hero (t1040)
UTG (t1680)

Preflop: Hero is BB with T/images/graemlins/club.gif, T/images/graemlins/spade.gif.
1 fold, MP1 goes allin, Button calls t705, 1 fold, Hero??

3) I really played this one bad

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Hero (t1170)
MP1 (t890)
MP2 (t1755)
CO (t190)
Button (t1645)
SB (t1565)
BB (t785)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with J/images/graemlins/heart.gif, J/images/graemlins/diamond.gif.
Hero raises to t100, 1 fold, MP2 raises to t225, 4 folds, Hero calls t125.

Flop: (t495) 2/images/graemlins/heart.gif, T/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, A/images/graemlins/club.gif (2 players)
Hero bets t250, MP2 calls t250.

Turn: (t995) 3/images/graemlins/club.gif (2 players)
Hero checks, MP2 bets t350, Hero folds.

4)
Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t150 (6 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

BB (t1350)
UTG (t940)
MP (t540)
CO (t1710)
Button (t1595)
Hero (t1865)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 6/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 6/images/graemlins/diamond.gif.
5 folds button moves allin, hero??.
Hes been stealing a lot from my blinds, but do I want to take a coin flip? or wait for a better spot?

5)
Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t30 (6 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

MP (t865)
CO (t895)
Hero (t700)
SB (t1500)
BB (t1630)
UTG (t2410)

Preflop: Hero is Button with J/images/graemlins/heart.gif, K/images/graemlins/club.gif.
3 folds, Hero calls t30, 1 fold, BB raises to t125, Hero calls t95.

Flop: (t265) 8/images/graemlins/heart.gif, J/images/graemlins/club.gif, T/images/graemlins/spade.gif (2 players)
BB bets t200, hero??.

Should I have folded this Preflop??

Thanks a lot for your input.

psyduck

06-26-2005, 06:29 AM

These are some tough hands. I'll try to post my feedback, but I'm hoping better players post their thoughts as well.

hand 1) I probably fold to his minraise because it smells really bad. you DO need to maintain some sort of a stack to steal in successive hands

hand 2) BLEH, previously I would have pushed myself, but button is really an ass in this hand. Realistically, you have to dodge 4 overs in case they have something like KQ and AK, and if they have PPs, then you have to dodge sets. I like a fold here so that (again) you can steal in upcoming hands.

hand 3) check/fold that flop to any sizeable bet. also, in earlier rounds, limp JJ from early position (instead of raising 3x)

hand 4) no need to take a coinflip here. you have a sizeable stack, enough to steal yourself, so try to maintain it.

hand 5) open-limping on the button is really bad. with the blinds so low, I'd just fold it.

anyway, the point to this is that because the blinds are so big, you can afford to let go of situations where your EV is marginally positive to take advantage of situations where your stack size will help you steal a lot (where, due to fold equity, your EV is higher)

pergesu

06-26-2005, 08:05 AM

1. Uh..FOLD!?!?!?!

2. CVall only if you don't eliket $$ veryd much/ I liket $$ so I FOLDT

3. Weird ahow you thintk you played thiast one obad. Stanradad raise preflop asnd stadnrad contintueation bet, followed by a reasonablte heck-foldr.

4. Vaclling here BSLOWS ASS

5. EWWW WEWWW EWWW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! FOLDR PREFLOP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !! But whent you tyhousse the sflop, don't bea coudche...pop htim back, proabybla POOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHS

Phil Van Sexton

06-26-2005, 08:26 AM

Fold #2? I haven't played in a week, but I think that's wrong.

We have a push from a short stack, and a call from a big stack....which doesn't really mean much. You have to think TT is the best hand. You will only have 890 left if you fold. Therefore, folding is awful.

I would call and then push the rest on any flop because I can.

pergesu

06-26-2005, 08:30 AM

It meanst thereee likely overcards, and ai I don't like my cchanes vs AT LEATS T three overcards when I casn go ahead stealing blinds for the next couple hands.

chisness

06-26-2005, 09:53 AM

right on ducky

Phil Van Sexton

06-26-2005, 02:14 PM

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right on ducky

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Another person voting for folding in #2? Am I missing something?

45suited

06-26-2005, 02:20 PM

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Another person voting for folding in #2? Am I missing something?

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The only reason I could see folding is if I had a read that the big stack's CALL (as opposed to raising) indicates a super strong hand.

If short stack pushes with any ace and big stack calls with AK, hero is still around 57% to win the hand. So I think the only way I fold is if I have good reason to believe that bigstack's mere call is suspicious.

Luminous Mist

06-26-2005, 02:22 PM

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right on ducky

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Another person voting for folding in #2? Am I missing something?

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No...I have no idea why people are advocating a fold for #2. This is an ideal situation to play your strong hand for value. I think folding here most of the time is a pretty big mistake given stack sizes and such.

Oh, and I play for first, /images/graemlins/wink.gif.

Luminous

microbet

06-26-2005, 02:27 PM

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Profit

06-26-2005, 02:55 PM

Reading through OP i'm glad to see i'm not the only one who CALLS #2. Small stack could have any 2, chip leader could have any ace. I'm just the opposite, if chip leader goes all in, i would be more inclined to believe he has a good hand...if i have a big PP here im not calling im pushing...

#1) i fold
#3) Turn i play it the same way you did. I'm not sure if i bet this flop however, if he checks behind me im betting the turn or folding the flop. Weak, probably.
#4) i fold
#5) fold preflop