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timmah27
06-25-2005, 10:16 PM
Whats up guys. Long time lurker, first time poster. I came across this situation last night during a set of SNG's. No evidence of collusion before this hand. This is the first thing that raised my suspicions.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t50 (4 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

UTG :#A500AF(Cheater 1)/ (t2330)
Button (t1660)
SB :#A500AF(Cheater 2)/ (t2465)
Hero (t1545)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 8/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 5/images/graemlins/spade.gif.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG :#A500AF(Cheater 1)/ raises to t100</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, SB :#A500AF(Cheater 2)/ calls t50.

Flop: (t225) 7/images/graemlins/club.gif, 7/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 9/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Cheater 2 checks, Cheater 1 checks.

Turn: (t225) 4/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Cheater 2 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Cheater 1 bets t50</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Cheater 2 raises to t100</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Cheater 1 raises to t225</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Cheater 2 raises to t350</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Cheater 1 raises to t475</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Cheater 2 raises to t600</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Cheater 1 raises to t725</font>, Cheater 2 folds.

Final Pot: t1550


So that first hand raised my suspicions. Then the guys kept playing in the same pots always and they'd take like 30 seconds each time they were together in a pot...suggesting AIM chat. Then two hands when it was 3 handed the shorter of the two would auto fold his big blind to the bigger stack. Then here is the final hand.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t200 (2 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

Cheater 1 (t1280)
Button :#A500AF(Cheater 2)/ (t6720)

Preflop: is with , .

Flop: (t200) 7/images/graemlins/heart.gif, T/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 9/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Cheater 1 bets t200</font>, Cheater 2 calls t200.

Turn: (t600) 5/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Cheater 2 calls t680.

River: (t1280) Q/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

Final Pot: t1280


Am i just being paranoid here? Or does it seem like these guys were colluding. Partypoker support told me they wouldn't refund me any money but they would prevent these guys from playing together at the same table in the future.

Would like to hear some input...

lastchance
06-25-2005, 10:17 PM
It's much, much, much, much more likely that they're both idiots.

timmah27
06-25-2005, 10:24 PM
Thing is they were playing solid up until this point. Oh and here is the results of last hand.

Cheater 1 shows [ Ad, 2h ] high card ace.
Cheater 2 shows [ Js, 8c ] a straight, eight to queen.

lastchance
06-25-2005, 10:26 PM
HU, tons of good/great players are insanely laggy.

microbet
06-26-2005, 12:08 AM
If that's how they cheat, don't do anything to stop them.