The Hands We're Proud Of Thread [Archive] - Two Plus Two Older Archives

juggernaut

06-25-2005, 05:12 AM

It seems like many posters are in a downswingy funk, including me. When I'm running well, I always have energy to do research and look for areas where I can fine tune my game. But when I'm running poorly, I get lazy and spend more time away from poker, thinking that I 'need to clear my head.' So this thread will contain hands that will give people ideas and concepts to work on while in the downward spiral.

Everyone who opens this thread must post a hand they are proud of. But it can't be any old dragging a monster pot hand, it should be a hand that illustrates a concept or some 'thing' you've been thinking about lately. If we get a bunch of hands together people will start to get ideas where they can finetune their game and hopefully shift the focus from the cashier window to playing well.

I'll go first. I've been looking for situations where I can semi-bluff raise a tight player capable of folding mid-street:

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Preflop: Hero is Button with J/images/graemlins/spade.gif, T/images/graemlins/spade.gif.
2 folds, Hero raises, 1 fold, BB calls.

Flop: (4.40 SB) 8/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 3/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 4/images/graemlins/club.gif (2 players)
BB bets, Hero calls.

Turn: (3.20 BB) Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif (2 players)
BB bets, Hero raises, BB folds.

Final Pot: 6.20 BB

aK13

06-25-2005, 06:38 AM

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Preflop: Hero is BB with T/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 6/images/graemlins/diamond.gif.
UTG calls, 2 folds, SB completes, Hero checks.

Flop: (3 SB) 5/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, A/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 5/images/graemlins/club.gif (3 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, UTG checks.

Turn: (1.50 BB) T/images/graemlins/club.gif (3 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, UTG checks.

River: (1.50 BB) T/images/graemlins/heart.gif (3 players)
SB bets, Hero folds, UTG calls.

Final Pot: 3.50 BB

I read the board g00t. I also should have bet the turn. This is when you know you're too tired to keep playing (happened tonight, about 20 mins ago).

kiddo

06-25-2005, 09:13 AM

Im in BB with:
7 /images/graemlins/heart.gif5 /images/graemlins/heart.gif

CO raises. I call and it is headsup. CO is a pretty good pokerplayer, raising from CO with a lot of hands. We both know the other one makes a living playing poker.

Flop:
Q /images/graemlins/spade.gif 6 /images/graemlins/spade.gif 4 /images/graemlins/heart.gif

I bet knowing he is capable of folding if he got nothing. He raise. I call.

Turn:
2 /images/graemlins/diamond.gif

I check. He bets. I call.

River:
9 /images/graemlins/spade.gif

I bet. He folds.

Schneids

06-25-2005, 10:03 AM

Ok I have a few of mine own from the past day or two.

Opponent is tough, fairly tight, capable of making laydowns:
4 handed 50/100.
I raise JTo from the button, BB calls. Flop AK8. He c/r me I call. Turn J. I raise his bet he folds.

Another hand:
50/100 6-handed.
I raise JJ UTG, UTG+1 3 bets. SB calls I call.
Qh2h6s flop. We all call UTG+1's bet. 8d turn. UTG+1 bets, SB calls, I raise, UTG+1 folds, SB calls. River Jd and SB folds to my bet. Quite likely the turn c/r got UTG+1 to erroneously fold AK.

Letting the maniac help me (this hand was from a month ago but it's still one of my favs):
50/100 7-handed.
I raise 87d UTG+1. Button cold calls, and both blinds call. SB is a total maniac. Flop Kc8h6h. SB bets, BB calls, I call, button calls. Turn Tc. SB bets, BB calls, I raise, button folds, SB 3 bets, BB folds, I call. 4h river. I call SB's bet and beat his J9o for a 15BB pot.

helpmeout

06-25-2005, 10:16 AM

This one is called stupidity at its finest. Oh no point 3 betting its a split pot.

This is why you think about things when you play instead of autopilot.

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Preflop: Hero is MP3 with A/images/graemlins/club.gif, 8/images/graemlins/spade.gif. UTG posts a blind of $15.
UTG (poster) checks, 3 folds, Hero raises, 1 fold, Button 3-bets, 2 folds, UTG folds, Hero calls.

Flop: (8.66 SB) 7/images/graemlins/heart.gif, A/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 7/images/graemlins/club.gif (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets, Hero calls.

Turn: (5.33 BB) 8/images/graemlins/club.gif (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets, Hero raises, Button calls.

River: (9.33 BB) A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (2 players)
Hero bets, Button raises, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 13.33 BB

I only learn from mistakes not from good play.

Stormwolf

06-25-2005, 11:29 AM

I call with ten high, kicker no good, sucks when you play right but lose, maybe i should have check-raised

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Preflop: Hero is SB with T/images/graemlins/club.gif, 6/images/graemlins/club.gif.
1 fold, MP calls, CO calls, Button calls, Hero completes, BB checks.

Flop: (5 SB) Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 5/images/graemlins/heart.gif, J/images/graemlins/club.gif (5 players)
Hero checks, BB checks, MP checks, CO checks, Button checks.

Turn: (2.50 BB) Q/images/graemlins/club.gif (5 players)
Hero checks, BB checks, MP checks, CO checks, Button bets, Hero calls, BB folds, MP folds, CO folds.

River: (4.50 BB) 3/images/graemlins/heart.gif (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 6.50 BB

Results in white below: 
Hero has Tc 6c (one pair, queens).
Button has Th 9s(one pair, queens).
Outcome: Button wins 6.50 BB.

Surfbullet

06-25-2005, 01:03 PM

[ QUOTE ]
I call with ten high, kicker no good, sucks when you play right but lose, maybe i should have check-raised

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Preflop: Hero is SB with T/images/graemlins/club.gif, 6/images/graemlins/club.gif.
1 fold, MP calls, CO calls, Button calls, Hero completes, BB checks.

Flop: (5 SB) Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 5/images/graemlins/heart.gif, J/images/graemlins/club.gif (5 players)
Hero checks, BB checks, MP checks, CO checks, Button checks.

Turn: (2.50 BB) Q/images/graemlins/club.gif (5 players)
Hero checks, BB checks, MP checks, CO checks, Button bets, Hero calls, BB folds, MP folds, CO folds.

River: (4.50 BB) 3/images/graemlins/heart.gif (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 6.50 BB

Results in white below: 
Hero has Tc 6c (one pair, queens).
Button has Th 9s(one pair, queens).
Outcome: Button wins 6.50 BB. 

[/ QUOTE ]

that's the worst river call I've ever seen.

Surf

Stormwolf

06-25-2005, 01:48 PM

Not when your 95% someone is bluffing with nothing getting 5.5-1, fish. But yeah, I should have check-raised

SippinSoma

06-25-2005, 01:48 PM

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Preflop: Hero is UTG with K/images/graemlins/spade.gif, Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif.
Hero raises, MP calls, 3 folds, BB calls.

Flop: (6.33 SB) T/images/graemlins/spade.gif, A/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 6/images/graemlins/club.gif (3 players)
BB checks, Hero bets, MP raises, BB calls, Hero calls.

Turn: (6.16 BB) J/images/graemlins/spade.gif (3 players)
BB checks, Hero bets, MP raises, BB folds, Hero 3-bets, MP calls.

River: (12.16 BB) A/images/graemlins/spade.gif (2 players)
Hero bets, MP raises, Hero 3-bets, MP caps, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 20.16 BB

Results in white below: 
Hero has Ks Qs (straight flush, ace high).
MP has Jc Ad (full house, aces full of jacks).
Outcome: Hero wins 20.16 BB.

Grisgra

06-25-2005, 01:53 PM

Opponent was a TAG or pseudo-TAG and was definitely annoyed with what seemed to be an auto-steal from the SB in the last hand or two.

I'm sure that this is going to set some people off, perhaps justifiably so . . . but I figured I had odds for the raise.

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Preflop: "Hero" is SB with 8/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, T/images/graemlins/diamond.gif.
2 folds, "Hero" raises, BB 3-bets, "Hero" calls.

Flop: (6 SB) 7/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 2/images/graemlins/spade.gif, Q/images/graemlins/club.gif (2 players)
"Hero" checks, BB bets, "Hero" calls.

Turn: (4 BB) A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (2 players)
"Hero" checks, BB bets, "Hero" raises, BB folds.

Final Pot: 7 BB

Results in white below: 
No showdown. "Hero" wins 7 BB.

Surfbullet

06-26-2005, 01:09 AM

Wow...that's quite a hand. So you bluff-called on the flop in an attempt to take the pot away from him on the turn? Nice.

I was going to reply saying that I had 8/images/graemlins/spade.gif9/images/graemlins/spade.gif and was trying to take the pot away from YOU, but I really had KJ. Too bad a K or J hadn't hit on the turn, taht woulda been nice. Or I could have had AT instead. Argh.

I guess the answer to my question I've been asking myself all week is "Yes! People see you run bad - then they take shots at you!"

NH gris.

Surf

[Edit: I'm totally a psuedo-tag /images/graemlins/cool.gif]

Grisgra

06-26-2005, 02:58 PM

[ QUOTE ]
I guess the answer to my question I've been asking myself all week is "Yes! People see you run bad - then they take shots at you!"

NH gris.

Surf

[Edit: I'm totally a psuedo-tag /images/graemlins/cool.gif]

[/ QUOTE ]

Actually, hadn't noticed you running bad. I called on the flop because I thought it was likely I had 6 clean outs, and it was a big pot . . . and on the turn, I realized that whatever you had on the flop, a turn-checkraise given that card probably had at least a 40% chance of winning the pot.

It's not a move I do often, but it does feel good when it works /images/graemlins/smile.gif. The only thing I was almost positive of was that you didn't have a made hand (like a high pocket) when you 3-bet me. Seemed likely that the chance you had an ace was 50% at best, and if you didn't have one . . .

Surfbullet

06-26-2005, 03:02 PM

[ QUOTE ]
. The only thing I was almost positive of was that you didn't have a made hand (like a high pocket) when you 3-bet me. Seemed likely that the chance you had an ace was 50% at best, and if you didn't have one . . .

[/ QUOTE ]

High pockets are definitely %-wise unlikely of course, but it's def a possibility - I don't think many players smoothcall them for deception in steal situations.

Yeah, you played this really well - the turn card helped heaps though /images/graemlins/smile.gif

The thing is...you may not have said to yourself "this TAG is running bad, lets push him off a hand.."

But I think if the last few rounds you had seen me pounding the 2 LPs at our table with 3bets and showing down winners (not being forced to c/f in multiway pots on the turn when i failed to pair up AGAIN) you might not have tried this line. If you thought I was LAG rather than TAG, and didn't know I was capable of such a fold (you have to see it to recognize it IMO) it might not have gone down this way.

The more I started calling down the more I noticed people had been taking shots like this..running bad makes things even harder.

Surf

baronzeus

06-26-2005, 03:19 PM

Against your regular ol' typical player :-D. God, I am SO good.

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Preflop: Hero is BB with J/images/graemlins/heart.gif, K/images/graemlins/club.gif.
1 fold, MP calls, 1 fold, Button raises, 1 fold, Hero calls, MP calls.

Flop: (6.40 SB) 3/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 4/images/graemlins/club.gif, 6/images/graemlins/heart.gif (3 players)
Hero checks, MP checks, Button bets, Hero calls, MP folds.

Turn: (4.20 BB) 2/images/graemlins/heart.gif (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets, Hero raises, Button 3-bets, Hero caps, Button calls.

River: (12.20 BB) 9/images/graemlins/heart.gif (2 players)
Hero bets, Button folds.

Final Pot: 13.20 BB

Results in white below: 
Hero has Jh Kc (high card, king).
Outcome: Hero wins 13.20 BB.

BabyJesus

06-26-2005, 05:30 PM

terrible. Without reads that is just...well terrible.

baronzeus

06-26-2005, 05:32 PM

[ QUOTE ]
terrible. Without reads that is just...well terrible.

[/ QUOTE ]

I had reads plus a very conservative table image. I was about 75% sure he would fold.

BabyJesus

06-26-2005, 05:39 PM

Sorry i guess i didn't get the same read from "typical 5/10 player"

baronzeus

06-26-2005, 05:57 PM

[ QUOTE ]
Sorry i guess i didn't get the same read from "typical 5/10 player"

[/ QUOTE ]

Guess not. These are 12 BBs you would have never gotten /images/graemlins/grin.gif

BabyJesus

06-26-2005, 06:07 PM

LoL, i'll go digging through some hand histories for you.

BabyJesus

06-26-2005, 06:15 PM

Previous hands with villian I had stolen pots away from him, at least thats what it looked like to him. When he raised preflop and i got involved with him, I knew he would play back at me this hand. He was going to try and make his stand by playing back at me.

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Preflop: Hero is BB with Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, K/images/graemlins/club.gif.
5 folds, Button raises, 1 fold, Hero calls.

Flop: (4.66 SB) 4/images/graemlins/heart.gif, T/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 2/images/graemlins/spade.gif (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets, Hero calls.

Turn: (3.33 BB) T/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets, Hero raises, Button 3-bets, Hero caps, Button folds.

Final Pot: 10.33 BB

protocol

06-26-2005, 06:59 PM

I think this is the hand that I enjoyed the most over the past month. Both opponents appeared to be tight passive, both with PFR <10. After that river card, I figured I was beat roughly 100% of the time. Maybe this hand taught me to not rely completely on PT data.

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Preflop: Hero is SB with 7/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 7/images/graemlins/heart.gif.
1 fold, Button calls, Hero raises, BB 3-bets, Button calls, Hero calls.

Flop: (9 SB) 6/images/graemlins/heart.gif, J/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, K/images/graemlins/club.gif (3 players)
Hero checks, BB checks, Button checks.

Turn: (4.50 BB) 2/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (3 players)
Hero checks, BB checks, Button checks.

River: (4.50 BB) A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (3 players)
Hero checks, BB checks, Button checks.

Final Pot: 4.50 BB

Results in white below: 
Hero has 7d 7h (one pair, sevens).
BB has 2s Ts (one pair, twos).
Button has 8c 4c (high card, ace).
Outcome: Hero wins 4.50 BB.

kahntrutahn

06-26-2005, 07:05 PM

if you think they are bluffing... dont call down T high.... RAISE!

BabyJesus

06-26-2005, 07:37 PM

very interesting show down hands there, but I don't think that really falls under hands that you're proud of. Not like you made some sic read or something. You made one decision then got to see the river for free and were surprised with total crap hands. nh though

protocol

06-26-2005, 08:05 PM

Yeah, you're probably right. There was nothing special about my play in that hand, I just thought it was an awesome hand. No way in hell did I expect BB to have T2s.

baronzeus

06-26-2005, 08:16 PM

[ QUOTE ]
Previous hands with villian I had stolen pots away from him, at least thats what it looked like to him. When he raised preflop and i got involved with him, I knew he would play back at me this hand. He was going to try and make his stand by playing back at me.

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Preflop: Hero is BB with Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, K/images/graemlins/club.gif.
5 folds, Button raises, 1 fold, Hero calls.

Flop: (4.66 SB) 4/images/graemlins/heart.gif, T/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 2/images/graemlins/spade.gif (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets, Hero calls.

Turn: (3.33 BB) T/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets, Hero raises, Button 3-bets, Hero caps, Button folds.

Final Pot: 10.33 BB

[/ QUOTE ]

terrible. Without reads that is just...well terrible.

BabyJesus

06-26-2005, 09:24 PM

I had actual info from previous hands that played into my play. Yours was stated as just a typical player.

I'm not trying to say you play was at all incorrect at the moment. You obv have more info than you posted that lead you to play the hand the way you did. But just reading through it and you say that opponent is just typical, I thought the play was just really bad chip spewing.

krishanleong

06-27-2005, 12:25 AM

You guys are weak. Making people fold incorrectly is easy. How about this one?

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Preflop: Hero is SB with 7/images/graemlins/club.gif, K/images/graemlins/spade.gif.
UTG calls, MP calls, 1 fold, Button calls, Hero completes, BB checks.

Flop: (5 SB) Q/images/graemlins/club.gif, 3/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 7/images/graemlins/heart.gif (5 players)
Hero checks, BB checks, UTG checks, MP bets, Button folds, Hero raises, BB folds, UTG folds, MP 3-bets, Hero calls.

Turn: (5.50 BB) 2/images/graemlins/spade.gif (2 players)
Hero checks, MP bets, Hero calls.

River: (7.50 BB) 4/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (2 players)
Hero bets, MP calls.

Final Pot: 9.50 BB

Results in white below: 
Hero has 7c Ks (one pair, sevens).
MP has 5h 5d (one pair, fives).
Outcome: Hero wins 9.50 BB. 

I don't really know why I did what I did this hand. Some sort of weird gut feeling. Villian was very taggy.

Krishan

phy1234

06-27-2005, 05:29 AM

I hate when they don't pay me off...

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Preflop: Hero is BB with 2/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 4/images/graemlins/spade.gif.
4 folds, SB completes, Hero checks.

Flop: (2 SB) J/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 5/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 3/images/graemlins/heart.gif (2 players)
SB bets, Hero calls.

Turn: (2 BB) K/images/graemlins/spade.gif (2 players)
SB bets, Hero calls.

River: (4 BB) 5/images/graemlins/club.gif (2 players)
SB bets, Hero raises, SB folds.

Final Pot: 7 BB

aflaba

07-04-2005, 01:35 PM

This was a very interesting thread so I figured I'd revieve it. Hope more hands come so it get's even more interesting.

Opponent is LAG.

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Preflop: Hero is UTG with Qd, Qh.
Hero raises, MP calls, 1 fold, Button calls, 1 fold, BB calls.

Flop: (8.50 SB) Qs, 8h, 9h (4 players)
BB checks, Hero bets, MP raises, Button folds, BB folds, Hero calls.

I'm planning to c/r the turn on a non-drawcompleting card. This way I win 1 SB more when ahead and I lose 1 SB less when behind.

Turn: (6.25 BB) Ah (2 players)

I still think I'm ahead way most of the time. I don't want him to get scared and take a free card now when this scare card. I don't want to c/r either and risk getting 3-bet.

Hero bets, MP raises, Hero calls.

River: (10.25 BB) 7d (2 players)
Hero checks, MP bets, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 12.25 BB

I posted the hand a few weeks ago
The hand with discussion and more comments (http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showthreaded.php?Cat=&Number=2726646&page=&view=&s b=5&o=)