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FatalError
06-24-2005, 04:35 PM
I used to believe the games weren't much better at night, at least not a WHOLE lot better, well boy has my mind changed, after my recent casino trip to foxwoods i came back on a *gasp* midnight-9 am sleep schedule... almost 12 hours off my usually one which i'm half way to recovering. In the 3 days that i played primarily late morning to early afternoon hours i lost 20 buyins over 220 SnG's!!!! for a 20% ROI player this was really sickening, it actually dropped my lifetime ROI almost a whole point and a half. Anyways i was getting really disgusted, until last night when i played 80 between 5 pm and 4 am and won 35 buyins without breaking a sweat! everyone just busted each other while i kept my stack at par and i drifted into the money with little effort every time.

I guess my mind has been made up that the games really ARE WAY better at night i'd even estimate it makes a 10-15% difference in my ROI as almost every losing session i've ever posted has taken place between 6 am and 6 pm EST!

Does anyone else have data that backs this up?

lastchance
06-24-2005, 04:36 PM
*cough* Variance happens. *cough*

octaveshift
06-24-2005, 04:54 PM
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Anyways i was getting really disgusted, until last night when i played 80 between 5 pm and 4 am and won 35 buyins without breaking a sweat!

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Talk to me about small sample size.

(Hardy har har.)

Dr_Jeckyl_00
06-24-2005, 05:33 PM
I am usually in bed by midnight, but one night I woke up from 2AM-3AM and it seemed as if many people were tilting, played 2 games in an hour both ITM (small sample size I know). Problem is my son wakes up between 6-7AM so I can't play that late.

curtains
06-24-2005, 06:47 PM
I agree that the games are probably better and worth anywhere from 1-5 ROI points....thats just a guess based on my intuitive feel from playing at different times..

Unoriginalname
06-24-2005, 08:13 PM
I'm seriously thinking I'm not even going to bother playing during the day anymore (I'm in college so I can make my poker playing schedule flexible). I 4-table right now and during the day I see several of the same people at all my tables. Now, there are bad multi-tablers of course, but in general they seem to be better than Joe Blow single table. There also seems to be more people during the day that know to play supertight in the beginning then become a push bot later on. At night, it seems like there is a limitless supply of donks that think AJ is the NUTS and they'll happily raise your KK all-in during the level 1 and 2 blinds.

Of course this is all based on my general "feeling" and I have no data to back this up.

rvg72
06-24-2005, 08:31 PM
Can Poker Tracker summarize results by time of day? It would be interesting if someone with a huge amount of data could look at this and see if there are some real differences. I only play late at night and there are a lot of bad players (at the $22's) but I just assumed that there were a lot of bad players 24 hours a day on party SNG's...

trdi
06-24-2005, 09:51 PM
I'm really interested in this, too. In one year I would probably have enough data to make a quite accurate estimation. But right now I am sure there are some guys who could take a look at their own data. I'm using the excell file I found on this site amd I write down every SNG's starting time and duration. You don't?

valejo
06-25-2005, 03:55 AM
The OP's sample size is too small, but if you'll collect data in something like AM's spreadsheet you breakdown ROI by time of day.

Once you've collected some data, learn something about significance testing and see if the differences you find in ROI are statistically significant.