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housenuts
06-24-2005, 04:14 PM
I have a fairly loose table image. at this point i was 8th out of 56. should i be gambling to accumulate more chips in this spot? do the pot odds warrant a call? the villain hadn't been too active, although i do think he was frustrated with my constant raising.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t600 (8 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

<font color="#C00000">Hero (t20668)</font>
<font color="#C00000">Button (t7819)</font>
SB (t12815)
BB (t20080)
UTG (t13015)
UTG+1 (t32548)
MP1 (t6283)
MP2 (t4786)

Preflop: Hero is CO with J/images/graemlins/club.gif, A/images/graemlins/club.gif.
<font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t1800</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to t7769</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Hero calls t5969.

Flop: (t15838) 3/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 2/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 2/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

Turn: (t15838) Q/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

River: (t15838) 8/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

Final Pot: t15838

schwza
06-24-2005, 04:19 PM
you need to win the pot 4/11 to be chip neutral, or about 37%. this depends tons on how wide a range he'll play back with. against JJ-KK / AQ+ you're ~32% (did not check actual numbers). i think there will be enough 77-TT / AT / KQ hands to call, but it's hard to know. i'd call given your image.

housenuts
06-24-2005, 04:22 PM
what about other considerations given that if i win i'll be in a great position and possibly able to garnish more chips...although i'm not the most skilled big stack player.

if i lose i'm back down to around average and will no longer have any big stack leverage.

if i fold i will still have a very healthy stack, can take stabs at some blinds, and wait for better spots.

i don't think this problem simply comes down to the math of whether calling is correct against his possible range of hands vs. the pot odds. am i wrong?

schwza
06-24-2005, 04:25 PM
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i don't think this problem simply comes down to the math of whether calling is correct against his possible range of hands vs. the pot odds. am i wrong?

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yeah, i think there's something to that, but frankly, i don't think anybody (including me) has any idea how to apply it. sklansky says that chips have decreasing marginal vlue; negreanu &amp; gigabet says they can have increasing marginal value. i'm happy to just call it a wash and try to maximize my chipEV here. (with a smaller stack, i would be risk averse).

LuvDemNutz
06-24-2005, 05:02 PM
This one is close - if Villain had been playing very tight I think I might find a fold. But, usually I call here and pray for clubs.

BTW, that is an unbelievable ass.