me454555
06-24-2005, 01:03 PM
I had one of those sessions where I lost big. After analyzing my play, I think I'm calling too many turn/river raises w/TPTK. Here's a few examples of what I'm talking about. Tell me if you can find a fold in any of these. Some these hands were actually hand I won. I'll post the results later
Villans in these hands are generic party 5/10ers
Hand 1
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Preflop: Hero is Button with A/images/graemlins/spade.gif, Q/images/graemlins/club.gif.
UTG calls, MP calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB 3-bets</font>, UTG calls, MP calls, Hero calls.
Flop: (12.40 SB) K/images/graemlins/spade.gif, Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 5/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
BB checks, UTG checks, MP checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises</font>, UTG calls, MP folds, Hero calls.
Turn: (9.20 BB) 9/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, UTG calls, Hero calls.
River: (12.20 BB) T/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, UTG calls, Hero folds.
Final Pot: 14.20 BB
Hand 2
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Preflop: Hero is CO with Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif, A/images/graemlins/club.gif.
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, Button calls, SB calls, BB calls.
Flop: (8 SB) 9/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, T/images/graemlins/heart.gif, Q/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, Button folds, SB calls $13 (All-In), BB calls, Hero calls.
Turn: (9.40 BB) 5/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players, 1 all-in)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, Hero calls.
River: (11.40 BB) 3/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players, 1 all-in)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, Hero calls.
Final Pot: 13.40 BB
Hand 3
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Preflop: Hero is SB with J/images/graemlins/club.gif, A/images/graemlins/heart.gif.
UTG calls, MP calls, Button calls, Hero completes, BB checks.
Flop: (5 SB) 2/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 9/images/graemlins/spade.gif, A/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, BB folds, UTG calls, MP calls, Button folds.
Turn: (4 BB) 5/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises</font>, MP calls, Hero calls.
River: (10 BB) 7/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, MP calls, Hero calls.
Final Pot: 13 BB
Hand 4
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Preflop: Hero is SB with T/images/graemlins/heart.gif, A/images/graemlins/heart.gif.
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Button calls.
Flop: (7 SB) T/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif, Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, Button calls.
Turn: (4.50 BB) 3/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises</font>, Hero calls.
River: (8.50 BB) 6/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets</font>, Hero calls.
Final Pot: 10.50 BB
Hand 5
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Preflop: Hero is SB with 3/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 3/images/graemlins/club.gif.
UTG calls, MP calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Hero completes, BB checks.
Flop: (4 SB) 4/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 5/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 2/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises</font>, UTG folds, MP folds, Hero calls.
Turn: (4 BB) 8/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, Hero calls.
River: (6 BB) 8/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, Hero calls.
Final Pot: 8 BB
The common theme w/all of these hands is that I'm calling down. Advice always appreciated.
Villans in these hands are generic party 5/10ers
Hand 1
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Preflop: Hero is Button with A/images/graemlins/spade.gif, Q/images/graemlins/club.gif.
UTG calls, MP calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB 3-bets</font>, UTG calls, MP calls, Hero calls.
Flop: (12.40 SB) K/images/graemlins/spade.gif, Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 5/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
BB checks, UTG checks, MP checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises</font>, UTG calls, MP folds, Hero calls.
Turn: (9.20 BB) 9/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, UTG calls, Hero calls.
River: (12.20 BB) T/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, UTG calls, Hero folds.
Final Pot: 14.20 BB
Hand 2
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Preflop: Hero is CO with Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif, A/images/graemlins/club.gif.
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, Button calls, SB calls, BB calls.
Flop: (8 SB) 9/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, T/images/graemlins/heart.gif, Q/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, Button folds, SB calls $13 (All-In), BB calls, Hero calls.
Turn: (9.40 BB) 5/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players, 1 all-in)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, Hero calls.
River: (11.40 BB) 3/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players, 1 all-in)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, Hero calls.
Final Pot: 13.40 BB
Hand 3
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Preflop: Hero is SB with J/images/graemlins/club.gif, A/images/graemlins/heart.gif.
UTG calls, MP calls, Button calls, Hero completes, BB checks.
Flop: (5 SB) 2/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 9/images/graemlins/spade.gif, A/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, BB folds, UTG calls, MP calls, Button folds.
Turn: (4 BB) 5/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises</font>, MP calls, Hero calls.
River: (10 BB) 7/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, MP calls, Hero calls.
Final Pot: 13 BB
Hand 4
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Preflop: Hero is SB with T/images/graemlins/heart.gif, A/images/graemlins/heart.gif.
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Button calls.
Flop: (7 SB) T/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif, Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, Button calls.
Turn: (4.50 BB) 3/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises</font>, Hero calls.
River: (8.50 BB) 6/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets</font>, Hero calls.
Final Pot: 10.50 BB
Hand 5
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Preflop: Hero is SB with 3/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 3/images/graemlins/club.gif.
UTG calls, MP calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Hero completes, BB checks.
Flop: (4 SB) 4/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 5/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 2/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises</font>, UTG folds, MP folds, Hero calls.
Turn: (4 BB) 8/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, Hero calls.
River: (6 BB) 8/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, Hero calls.
Final Pot: 8 BB
The common theme w/all of these hands is that I'm calling down. Advice always appreciated.