ROI at 200+15's

[tongni]

I know I should probably use the search function, but my friend has decided that playing 200+15's with a 2k bankroll is a good idea, having played one or two 100+9's and a handful of 10+1's previously, because the play at the 200+15's is "the worst I have seen". Please give some reasons why this is not a good idea, and what a sustainable ROI is for this game.

[Myst]

Let him do what he wants, and let him learn from his own mistakes.

Who knows. He might get lucky.

Personally, I have over a 6k bankroll, and Im not even playing the 100s right now.

[Karak567]

I have over a 5 k bankroll, and I'm not playing the 55s.

[the_joker]

I have $500 bankroll and played my first $55 yesterday. I had to drop back down after losing /images/graemlins/blush.gif

[TheUsher]

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I know I should probably use the search function, but my friend has decided that playing 200+15's with a 2k bankroll is a good idea, having played one or two 100+9's and a handful of 10+1's previously, because the play at the 200+15's is "the worst I have seen". Please give some reasons why this is not a good idea, and what a sustainable ROI is for this game.

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What's his nick? /images/graemlins/grin.gif Playing with a 2k bankroll for me would be suicide considering that I swing 2k practically every day.

[tongni]

This is really good. Keep it coming. Directing him to this thread in about 10 minutes.

[dreamster]

10% roi is good

[niwotyalpi]

Your friend is most likely gonna be broke in a week.

[djj6835]

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because the play at the 200+15's is "the worst I have seen

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This statement in itself is a good inidicator as do how badly your friend misunderstands the game....

[stillbr]

My BR is around 9K...and I play the 22's and 33's. LOL...I normally 6-table 3/6 and 5/10 though, but I'm beginning to HATE the grind. I suck at SnG's but want to get better. About 250 sng's so far and I'm accually in the green a good bit /images/graemlins/smile.gif I'm happy with this. Its a HUGE cut in $/hr though so I'm finding it hard to make myself do SnG sessions

[deathpotato]

I have swung 7k, and there are some very solid players I know of who have swung 12k at the 215s. 2k swings are very, very common. Also, your friend can't beat the game if he thinks the play is worse than at the 10+1.

[DonButtons]

man, I thought I was consistent till the past 2 weeks, lets just say I can win a lot in 100 games, and lose a lot in 200 games...

fun fun 50-60 buyins going both directions

[deathpotato]

Ugh, I'm lucky not to have swung more than 35 yet. Which came first, up or down? I find it easier psychologically to be going on at a normal rate, take a big hit, then have a big rush right afterward, rather than having a nice run erased immediately after it happens.

[handsome]

A good reason not to play 215's with a 2k bankroll is the high likelihood of going bust. Tell him to build that bankroll up to 10k or so, then take a shot at the 215's, because I think they are very beatable (>10% ROI) but not without a large bankroll, and this is coming from someone with a 20K BR.

[Apathy]

I dunno, when I starting 8-tabling I added eurobet as my new site... I only put 1k on, and planed to put like 4-5k more on there to keep myself from going broke but I never had to, that 1k is much more now from the 215s... but the point is my BR is NOT that 1k or even 2k (or even 50k). Your friend is crazy for seriously playing these with only 2k.

2k downswings aren't just possible... they are a daily happening for any 4+ tabler. If he cathes the downswing first, he won't be able to reload.

[Fortitude]

It's pretty obvious that you can't play the 200+15 with a 2k bankroll without getting quite lucky. However, I think your friend would have trouble beating this game with even a 20k bankroll unless he learns very fast because he is obviously one of the soft spots in the game that I enjoy so much. I think this has been established.

I am more interested in what kind of ROI 200+15'ers are hitting. I've just got into the game at 700 or so of them and I'm running quite well at 16%. I 8 table and only play during peak hours. I expect my ROI to fall as I get a decent number of SNG's in but I'm hoping to be in the neighborhood of 10% after 10 000 SNGs. Is this realistic? How are the other 200+15ers doing?

[kyro]

Friend, listen up.

You will fail. Miserably. Anyone who thinks the play at the $215s is worse than the $11s has no understanding of the game. If you like money, you will not do this. Simple as that.

[raptor517]

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I know I should probably use the search function, but my friend has decided that playing 200+15's with a 2k bankroll is a good idea, having played one or two 100+9's and a handful of 10+1's previously, because the play at the 200+15's is "the worst I have seen". Please give some reasons why this is not a good idea, and what a sustainable ROI is for this game.

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What's his nick? /images/graemlins/grin.gif Playing with a 2k bankroll for me would be suicide considering that I swing 2k practically every day.

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yea whats his nicks? i wanna follow people like that around. in 215s, you can make 8k in one day if you go on a super turbo luckbox hater 10 tabling. of course, you can LOSE the same amount if you go on a super turbo luckbox cooler. 2k aint shat. holla

[tongni]

Thanks guys, he's playing 5/10 now. Good replies everyone, it really helped.

[Lady Dont Tekno]

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Thanks guys, he's playing 5/10 now. Good replies everyone, it really helped.

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Heh that's still underbankrolled but the ROR is much less (assuming he's a winning player).

LDT