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Stickmn24
06-23-2005, 12:02 PM
All I hear is how soft the Party games are, so I was wondering if the cheaper ($5+1, $10+1) Party SnGs are much easier than the ones at Stars. I haven't been playing that long, but I do okay in the Stars $5.50s. Since I'm getting $100 free at Stars soon, should I try to go for the ring games (not a whole lot of experience) or the smaller sit-and-goes? Keep in mind that I'm used to the Stars format... I don't know much about Party's.

I know the $5+$1 has that higher entry fee, but should it discourage me from playing?

the_joker
06-23-2005, 12:11 PM
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I know the $5+$1 has that higher entry fee, but should it discourage me from playing?

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The extra $.50 is 10% off of your ROI, which is a good chunk. If you really want to play the $5's, I'd stick with Stars, I don't think party $5's are 10% easier.

gisb0rne
06-23-2005, 12:25 PM
I play Stars $25+2 turbos, and Eurobet (Party) $30+3's. Frankly, I think it's better to play at Stars unless you plan on going to the $50+ level. Turbos have less rake, take about the same time, have about the same quality players, and have a better structure for good players than what you get at Party. Plus you don't have to deal with the ultra annoying software.

Mr_J
06-23-2005, 02:08 PM
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Turbos have less rake

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Not unless you can exchange points at stars for cash.

Jordan
06-23-2005, 02:17 PM
what? turbos at stars are $6+.50,$15+1,$25+2, $55+5, etc.
that amounts to 8.3%,6.7%,8%,9.1%, etc. that is lower than the standard 10% rake found at most places.

Phill S
06-23-2005, 02:21 PM
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what? turbos at stars are $6+.50,$15+1,$25+2, $55+5, etc.
that amounts to 8.3%,6.7%,8%,9.1%, etc. that is lower than the standard 10% rake found at most places.

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He means with rakeback

Phill

Jordan
06-23-2005, 02:54 PM
even so, you're not going to beat $15+1's rake.

gisb0rne
06-23-2005, 04:21 PM
15+1 is less rake than you'll pay even with rakeback. 25+2 is about the same (equivalent to 25% rakeback).

legendary loser
06-23-2005, 05:52 PM
The Poker Stars SnGs make room for more skilled players. The Party SnGs are more of a crapshoot because of the small chip stacks and rapid blind increases. You really need to push your small edges in the Party SnGs more so than Poker Stars. Most of the time you will only have 5-7x BB when you get Head Up on Party, while you may have 20-25x BB on Poker Stars.

The most important factor to serious players is the time length. Party SnGs average about an hour while PokerStars avg probably anywhere from 1:15-1:35. When this translates to multi-tabling, it really hurts the people that are playing 50+ SnGs a day.

I'd say, if you are just playing as a hobby or just playing 1-10 SnGs a day, then you could stick to Poker Stars. If you plan to use SnGs to make a lot money, I'd move to Party.

astarck
06-23-2005, 05:57 PM
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Party SnGs average about an hour

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Mine don't average anywhere close to an hour. More like 38-45 minutes from beginning to end. 30-35 minutes if you count my average finish time.

legendary loser
06-23-2005, 06:02 PM
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Party SnGs average about an hour

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Mine don't average anywhere close to an hour. More like 38-45 minutes from beginning to end. 30-35 minutes if you count my average finish time.

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You may be right. Is there anyway to check this on PT?

astarck
06-23-2005, 06:04 PM
I check with the spreadsheet circulating around here. I'm too lazy to find the link, but I'm sure others could post the link within a few minutes.

gisb0rne
06-23-2005, 06:09 PM
You need to compare PS turbos, not PS regular tourneys, to PP.

astarck
06-23-2005, 06:10 PM
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You need to compare PS turbos, not PS regular tourneys, to PP.

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I wasn't the one doing any comparisons. I simply stated that PP sngs are 40-45 minutes in length.