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Grease
06-23-2005, 01:24 AM
I have no idea how PF happened. Limper had a VPIP over 40, hence the raise, and the other villian was LA-P (38/15/.5)

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Preflop: Hero is MP3 with 9/images/graemlins/club.gif, J/images/graemlins/club.gif.
<font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, MP2 calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Button calls, SB calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 3-bets</font>, Hero calls, <font color="#CC3333">Button caps</font>, SB calls, MP2 calls, Hero calls.

Flop: (17 SB) K/images/graemlins/club.gif, 4/images/graemlins/club.gif, 8/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button 3-bets</font>, SB folds, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 caps</font>, Hero calls, Button calls.

Turn: (14.50 BB) 5/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
MP2 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises</font>, MP2 folds, Hero calls.

River: (18.50 BB) Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets</font>, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 20.50 BB
thirddan
06-23-2005, 01:29 AM
3bet turn, lead river...

i think you need to be puttin in more bets here...i think a flopped set is more likely than another flopped flush, especially since the AKJ /images/graemlins/club.gif are all out...
KDawgCometh
06-23-2005, 01:32 AM
I think I'd three bet the turn and call it down if capped. I really wouldn't be surprised if the button turned up a set here, and since the board didn't pair, I think we are good here enough to three bet the turn
imported_leader
06-23-2005, 02:01 AM
Is that a standard PF raise?

Anyway, I'd 3-bet the turn as well. Call down a cap.
Grease
06-23-2005, 02:02 AM
I raised to isolate LP limper. It didn't work...
imported_leader
06-23-2005, 02:06 AM
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I raised to isolate LP limper. It didn't work...

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How high is your PFR? Minds 10 and I don't even make that play with JTs thou I probably should.
Grease
06-23-2005, 02:07 AM
~9
thirddan
06-23-2005, 02:07 AM
i raise J9s ther and Q8s, maybe down to K6/7s

edit - depending on blinds
imported_leader
06-23-2005, 02:11 AM
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i raise J9s ther and Q8s, maybe down to K6/7s

edit - depending on blinds

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If you don't have steal stats on the blinds, how tight VPiPwise do they have to be for you to start getting real aggressive with your isolations and steals?
thirddan
06-23-2005, 02:53 AM
i would become much tighter isolating if the big blind is about VPIP 20%, many more hands become playable for a raise if there is a limper...
psyduck
06-23-2005, 06:15 AM
preflop seems to be a mistake...

flop: of course
turn: I think I three-bet here. Button capped preflop and 3-bet on the flop, so you'll see AAc or KKK very often. If it's capped, I STILL lead the river and then just call if he raises AGAIN (which I really doubt he will)
crunchy1
06-23-2005, 08:41 AM
PF: I think it's fine. Possibly a little questionable with a loose Button left to act behind you. I think I want a better chance that this guy will fold. I know plenty of 38% VP$IP players that will fold on the button but, I usually have more of a read on them then just the stats.

After the flop: I'm NEVER calling after this flop with aggressive players in the pot unless it's one of them that got the cap in. If one of them LRR with Axs/Qxs then good for them - they get 12 of my BBs.