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PoorLawyer
06-22-2005, 01:52 PM
So i made my 1st deposit on there this month and got an email saying they paid me for the monthly bonus. for some reason i have 50 pounds more that hasnt cleared yet. This doesnt make sense since the bonus is only 25 pounds. i thought maybe there was an initial 25 pound sign up bonus on top of the monthly, but then there is still an extra 25 in there. I have no idea how many hands I need to clear this mystery bonus either....

M Tal
06-22-2005, 01:54 PM
gotta clear it in the casino

PoorLawyer
06-22-2005, 02:03 PM
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gotta clear it in the casino

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i never pay attention to casino whoring stuff.....isnt that risk free somehow? I cant really understand how gambling in a casino is risk free but thats what they say...

M Tal
06-22-2005, 02:09 PM
yup, just go play till you lose 50, then quit.

let me withdraw it after £500 wagered.

if you do lose the 50, you can still take out whatever you

started with. gl

playersare
06-22-2005, 02:15 PM
risk free means that the 50 pounds added to your account will not deduct from your withdrawable cash balance while you're in the process of clearing it off.

example:
you deposit $200 get a $50 risk free bonus

playable amount - $250
withdrawable amount - $200

then you play some poker, win some from actual play, and then get a $25 bonus from poker which is cashable immediately. the $50 casino bonus still sits on top.

playable amount - $314
withdrawable amount - $264

you play in the casino and lose $40 in risk free chips. your withdrawable amount does not change.

playable amount - $274
withdrawable amount - $264

you gambool some more and loose all your risk free chips and then dip into your actual cash reserve. your casino bonus has not cleared so the cashier still indicates how much of your cash balance is pending should you emerge back from the deficit.

playable amount - $232
withdrawable amount - $264

you clear the casino bonus and ended up slightly positive, so the withdrawable amount is now the same as your playable amount.

playable amount - $296
withdrawable amount - $296

see you next month

PoorLawyer
06-22-2005, 03:09 PM
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risk free means that the 50 pounds added to your account will not deduct from your withdrawable cash balance while you're in the process of clearing it off.

example:
you deposit $200 get a $50 risk free bonus

playable amount - $250
withdrawable amount - $200

then you play some poker, win some from actual play, and then get a $25 bonus from poker which is cashable immediately. the $50 casino bonus still sits on top.

playable amount - $314
withdrawable amount - $264

you play in the casino and lose $40 in risk free chips. your withdrawable amount does not change.

playable amount - $274
withdrawable amount - $264

you gambool some more and loose all your risk free chips and then dip into your actual cash reserve. your casino bonus has not cleared so the cashier still indicates how much of your cash balance is pending should you emerge back from the deficit.

playable amount - $232
withdrawable amount - $264

you clear the casino bonus and ended up slightly positive, so the withdrawable amount is now the same as your playable amount.

playable amount - $296
withdrawable amount - $296

see you next month

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interesting. i never realized you can just take a shot at it for free. what would you recommend as the safest way to try and actually get the bonus at the casino without busting on my free 50?

playersare
06-22-2005, 03:40 PM
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i never realized you can just take a shot at it for free. what would you recommend as the safest way to try and actually get the bonus at the casino without busting on my free 50?

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the casino rollover is only 20x bonus so games with house advantage of below 1% (played with correct strategy) will clear very efficiently with relatively low risk of ruin. blackjack is popular and easy, as is video poker (Jacks or Better). Pontoon also has a very low edge but not everyone (including myself) has bothered to learn how to play that yet.

keeping variance low means placing smaller bets which can make casino bonuses a bit tedious. larger bet sizes will clear the wagering requirement faster but increases the risk of ruin (though obviously, the bonus chips are completely free of any true financial obligation should you lose). you just have to decide what your happy medium is.

these are some sites which have "double-dip" monthly bonuses for both poker and casino:
William Hill
Littlewoods
Totalbet
UK Betting
Eurobet

(seems to be something that British sites like to do, apparently)

also, the Peak Entertainment group has separate monthly bonuses for Caribbean Sun poker and Omni Casino/Sands of the Caribbean Casino, though these casino bonuses are NOT risk free (they are paid after you complete the WR's with your own money).

HRFats
06-22-2005, 04:08 PM
I have found this site very helpful with Casino bonuses. I think Homer built it. It's still not complete and may have been abandoned BUT it works like a charm!!

buildingabankroll.com

playersare
06-22-2005, 04:42 PM
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www.buildingabankroll.com

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that site is only good for the three most basic sites that everyone knows already. half of the links are empty, Ruby Fortune's T&C is trashed, and you should NOT deposit to CON with neteller or your WR increases from 10x to 50x.

honestly, there's really no point in sending anyone there, and you're technically violating 2+2 protocol because of the affiliate linkage on that site.

PoorLawyer
06-22-2005, 04:50 PM
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www.buildingabankroll.com

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that site is only good for the three most basic sites that everyone knows already. half of the links are empty, Ruby Fortune's T&C is trashed, and you should NOT deposit to CON with neteller or your WR increases from 10x to 50x.

honestly, there's really no point in sending anyone there, and you're technically violating 2+2 protocol because of the affiliate linkage on that site.

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well that was fun. I got through almost have the wagering requirement and then crashed and burned. maybe next month.
did i have 50 to try instead of 25 because i made the initial deposit this month or is it always 50 even though the site says 25?

HRFats
06-22-2005, 05:03 PM
That's what I love about this site. Try to be helpful and someone will always flame ya for it.

FYI - the strategy listed on the site is the same for ALL of the sites and the "cheat sheet" for Interpoker is the same for all Cryptos. The post asks for suggestions for clearing the bonus. The site I listed has a strategy and step by step instructions for doing exactly that.

I have NO AFFILIATION with that site. But I have used it for about 2 months and have made over $600 clearing casino bonuses.

playersare
06-22-2005, 06:02 PM
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Try to be helpful and someone will always flame ya for it.

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that was an extremely mediocre "try" on your part. if you were truly serious about having someone get the most out of casino bonuses, you could have posted any of the other larger, more established sites which have been heavily (legitimately) advertised and/or recommended. instead you posted a 3/4-deserted link that was never intended to be launched with equal parts correct and incorrect information? anyone who followed that site's instructions to a tee would have lost $40 in EV with the increased WR of CON neteller, and faced an $16,200 BJ/VP playthrough on ruby fortune, making the theoretical value of the $100 bonus worth only $19, and locking up $80 in cash investment which a beginner player would likely have abandoned out of frustration. did YOU do these bonuses exactly as the site instructed, and STILL felt that it was a worthwile link to send to strangers?

and the strategy suggestions for Planetluck and Starluck are NOT correct. the site says select "European NH" - are they on CRACK? and what about late surrender? I would be extremely suprised if Homer had anything to do with this site. the more I look at it the more appalled I am at whoever coded it, and anyone who follows it.

HRFats
06-22-2005, 06:31 PM
Believe what you want. I have done the Casino-on-net, Intercasino (twice now), Planet Luck, Star Luck, and Will Hill (twice now). I use the Strategy Card suggestions and play them 100%. I never deviate from the card. It has been very profitable for me. PM me and I will forward the three emails I have from Homer...

M Tal
06-22-2005, 06:49 PM
50 1st month

25 after

playersare
06-22-2005, 07:13 PM
just because you're +EV from the bonuses doesn't mean you're using the correct, optimal strategy. if you don't understand the mathematical inefficiencies of what you're doing and are still happy with your results, there's no point in arguing, and I'll move on. my statments in this thread will stand for those who have enough to a clue to interpret them for their own good.

HRFats
06-22-2005, 07:18 PM
Nothing wrong with being fat, dumb and happy. And $600 richer...

playersare
06-22-2005, 07:28 PM
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Nothing wrong with being fat, dumb and happy. And $600 richer...

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I'd have to at least agree that $600 for 2 days of casino bonuses is pretty decent, even for me.

oh wait, you said 2 months...my bad