Where is the fold here?

[party36master]

UTG+1 is 28/15/2.2 over 46 hands.
I suppose I can't call 2 cold on the turn.
And that the river call is spewing.

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Preflop: Hero is Button with Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif, A/images/graemlins/spade.gif.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP3 calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls, MP3 calls.

Flop: (9.33 SB) Q/images/graemlins/club.gif, 8/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 9/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 bets</font>, MP1 calls, MP3 calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls, MP3 calls.

Turn: (8.66 BB) 9/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 bets</font>, MP1 folds, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 raises</font>, Hero calls, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 3-bets</font>, MP3 all in, Hero calls.

River: (16.66 BB) 3/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 bets</font>, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 18.66 BB

[Lurkmaster Flex]

I fold when it's 2 to me on the turn. Paired board and possible someone has a made straight is enough for me.

[crunchy1]

UTG+1 has pretty reasonable aggression and could be leading a pretty wide range of holdings here. MP3 is short-stacked and ready to go all-in.

You should be 3-betting the turn here.

[shark6]

From your tone it sounds like you lost this one. However, I’d 3-bet the turn. MP3’s raise is just so he can lose the last bit of his money. UTG+1’s lead turn bet a lot of the time is a bluff at a scare card (He’s thinking I’m going to call one bet anyway with my gutshot draw, so why not just bluff at the paired board and take a chance to win it now). I’d expect a checkraise from his type if he just made trips.

[imported_leader]

I agree with what others have said. MP3's raise is almost meaningless. And a S&amp;G here smells weak. 3-bet the turn.

[mscags]

I might call this on turn if I know the villians to be somewhat tricky. Once he three bets it though you are in a whirl of trouble. I would like to fold the river, but the pot is so big it probably justifies a call even though I can't see him have anything that can beat besides possibly a busted club draw pair

[mscags]

No way am I three betting this.

[Grease]

Why would you not 3-bet his donk bet?

My first inclination was not to 3-bet as well, but after I read the responses, I'm pretty much concur with popping it here.

[Grease]

You might also get a free showdown here if you choose to take it.

[party36master]

To those suggesting 3 betting:

Suppose I 3 bet, the original bettor caps.
Do you call? (I would)

When bet into on the river, do you fold the enormous pot?
(I'd find it hard to fold)

[party36master]

This hand is still bugging me.
If I 3 bet, what do I do against a cap?

And what do I do when bet into on the river?

Investing 5 Big Bets on this hand on turn and river, is that really the right way to play it?

[Roland19]

Fold the turn. You're an idiot, and part of the reason this forum sucks. So am I. But honestly, 2 cold on the turn means your dead.

[party36master]

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Fold the turn. You're an idiot, and part of the reason this forum sucks. So am I. But honestly, 2 cold on the turn means your dead.

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What makes you say that? Who the hell are you?
Why am I an idiot?

Several folks suggested that I 3 bet the turn. Its reasonable to ask how they think the hand should be played from there.

I don't contribute to the "suckiness" of the forum. I don't post routine hands.

Not sure what your problem is, but keep it to yourself.

[crunchy1]

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Investing 5 Big Bets on this hand on turn and river, is that really the right way to play it?

[/ QUOTE ]
Thinking about it this way makes it seem worse than it really is. Many times your 3-bet is for value because you're ahead. Some times the 3-bet will get you HU with the all-in player.

Some times you'll get capped and have to call down and spend 5BBs. I don't think you'll be behind all of the times that this happens.

Of course theses estimations are based only on the information that you gave. If you have some extra post-flop notes/info that you didn't post that would make you think that UTG+1/MP are only betting this way with hands that you're behind - then of course you should fold as you're clearly not getting odds to continue.

[wildwood]

I vote fold the turn. Reasons: a) calling two cold, B) call doesn't close the action, c) mp3 woke up and raised, d) utg+1 isn't slowing down, e) you're way behind if a nine is out...fwiw