Early level questions

[emptypockets]

A couple of early levels question for you:

Should I respect the raise on the flop here or do you think it´s worth to reraise with mediocre overpair?

***** Hand History for Game 2245318768 *****
NL Hold'em $20 Buy-in + $2 Entry Fee Trny:13308716 Level:1 Blinds(10/15) -

Seat 4 is the button
Total number of players : 9
Seat 1: DomD33 ( $785 )
Seat 2: tinclan ( $160 )
Seat 3: ormo70 ( $755 )
Seat 4: Hero ( $770 )
Seat 6: SEY_WHEN ( $770 )
Seat 7: chaminsoo ( $770 )
Seat 8: leafyseed ( $785 )
Seat 10: Johndds ( $1060 )
Seat 9: SNT51 ( $2145 )
Trny:13308716 Level:1
Blinds(10/15)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Hero [ 8d 8s ]
leafyseed folds.
SNT51 folds.
Johndds calls [15].
DomD33 folds.
tinclan folds.
ormo70 calls [15].
Hero calls [15].
SEY_WHEN folds.
chaminsoo checks.
** Dealing Flop ** [ 7s, 7c, 2c ]
chaminsoo checks.
Johndds bets [50].
ormo70 folds.
Hero?



Next hand I wonder if I´m way too weak on the flop. Please comment my play on turn and river.

NL Hold'em $20 Buy-in + $2 Entry Fee Trny:13308716 Level:2 Blinds(15/30) - Wednesday, June 22, 06:17:34 EDT 2005
Table Table 13805 (Real Money)
Seat 2 is the button
Total number of players : 9
Seat 1: DomD33 ( $620 )
Seat 2: tinclan ( $350 )
Seat 3: ormo70 ( $645 )
Seat 4: Hero ( $860 )
Seat 6: SEY_WHEN ( $745 )
Seat 7: chaminsoo ( $785 )
Seat 8: leafyseed ( $815 )
Seat 10: Johndds ( $1065 )
Seat 9: SNT51 ( $2115 )
Trny:13308716 Level:2
Blinds(15/30)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Hero [ Kd Jc ]
SEY_WHEN folds.
chaminsoo folds.
leafyseed folds.
SNT51 folds.
Johndds calls [30].
>You have options at Table 11279 Table!.
DomD33 folds.
tinclan folds.
ormo70 calls [15].
Hero checks.
** Dealing Flop ** [ 3c, Td, Ks ]
ormo70 bets [30].
Hero calls [30].
Johndds calls [30].
** Dealing Turn ** [ 3h ]
ormo70 bets [30].
Hero calls [30].
Johndds folds.
** Dealing River ** [ 5d ]
ormo70 bets [125].

Hero?

[Hood]

Hand #1: I would reraise about 150 here, and fold to a push. I'm not confident this is the best move.

Hand #2: Although you've only asked for critique on the turn and river, I think it's the poor flop play that has lead to the tricky position of future better rounds. What is the call meant to achieve here? You have your TPMK, you need to raise and make the min-better make a decision.

[NYCNative]

HAND ONE

On the button, I pop a PF raise here. With position, you can take down the pot even if an overcard hits if you limit the field and make a nice continuation bet, you can scare away a bigger PP too. You can also more confidently raise that flop knowing that you already defined your hand as strong. Note that if I am UTG I don't raise PF. The position is the key.

HAND TWO

Raise the flop bet to about 90 or 100. After that, I check/call unless it gets too hairy (or my hand gets stronger). In the 22s I would call the river. Half the time, I'm ahead; the other half it was a value bet and villain managed to spike a second pair or something.

[chisness]

interesting hands

whats the plan if we raise hand 1 then BB just calls, turn check check, river he bets 200?

i honestly don't mind folding this here at all.. superweak? yes, but basically if you're 88 is good, you'll probably take down the current pot -- if he has a 7, you're probably gonna lose half your stack

[emptypockets]

Hand 1: I don´t know, maybe it is best to try and take the pot here. The disadvantage with that move is that if he pushes and you fold, you have severly damaged your stacksize for later levels.

Hand 2: You´re right. If I raise the flop I will either take it down right there or can fold to a reraise. What should I do on the turn if my flopbet gets called though?

[emptypockets]

Exactly, and to loose half your stack this early with that hand is unnecessary.
The KJ-hand I think I either have to reraise or fold. I don´t think calling it down will take me anywhere.

Thanks for your thoughts :-)

[mosdef]

i think a preflop raise in hand one is a mistake. if you raise a small amount, it won't thin the field and you're stuck still playing for set value, but you've paid more for that chance. if you raise a lot you will thin the field but you'll be committing a big chunk of your stack with a marginal hand at the beginning of the tournament. it seems like you're taking on a lot of risk, but where's the return? the only advantage is that you are setting yourself up for a continuation bet on the flop, which is great and everything, but do you really need to be putting a large chunk of chips at risk in level 1 for this kind of marginal potential gain? i don't think so.

[Dr_Jeckyl_00]

Hand 1 - I would raise to $150, possibly push. You have an over pair. He probably has overcards or the 2, both of which you beat, doubt he made a set.

Hand 2 - you should not even be playing KJ at level 2, you need to play very tight early on, find AleoMagus spreadsheet and read up.

[mosdef]

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Hand 2 - you should not even be playing KJ at level 2, you need to play very tight early on, find AleoMagus spreadsheet and read up.

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he was in the BB. even aleo's guide doesn't suggest folding the BB when not raised.

[emptypockets]

Hand 2: Can´t avoid the BB, see I checked it pf.

[Dr_Jeckyl_00]

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Hand 2 - you should not even be playing KJ at level 2, you need to play very tight early on, find AleoMagus spreadsheet and read up.

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he was in the BB. even aleo's guide doesn't suggest folding the BB when not raised.

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my bad, I misread and thought you called t$30. In that case I suggest that you raise to $90 on the flop. Why is he min betting... does he have 2nd or 3rd pair? If he calls, I might fire another barrel on the turn, maybe $120 (he did not raise and he min bet)... I like your hand, if raised call if it is small, fold if it is big b/c you will have shown strength and he came over the top (if small raise there is a lot in pot).