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Grease
06-22-2005, 12:55 AM
No reads, still early in the session.

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Preflop: Hero is BB with 5/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 8/images/graemlins/spade.gif.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP3 calls, CO calls, Button calls, SB completes, Hero checks.

Flop: (7 SB) 6/images/graemlins/club.gif, 8/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 2/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(7 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls, MP3 calls, CO folds, Button calls, SB calls.

Turn: (6.50 BB) 7/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(6 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG+1 folds, MP1 calls, MP3 calls, Button folds, SB folds.

River: (9.50 BB) 2/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 bets</font>, MP3 calls, Hero...

youdnf
06-22-2005, 01:05 AM
i wouldnt like it, but i would call the river.

JacksonTens
06-22-2005, 01:10 AM
What are you putting him on? a 2? A slowplayed straight? I would definately call as your getting 10-1. Call this down or maybe even raise/fold but that depends on the player your up against and what kind of table it is. I'd have led out on the river and perhaps folded to a raise.

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Paxosmotic
06-22-2005, 01:12 AM
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What are you putting him on? a 2? A slowplayed straight? I would definately call as your getting 10-1. Call this down or maybe even raise/fold but that depends on the player your up against and what kind of table it is. I'd have led out on the river and perhaps folded to a raise.

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You'd definitely call getting 10-1, but if you lead the river and it's raised, you're now getting 11-1. What makes that a fold? You MUST call this.

Brunger
06-22-2005, 01:15 AM
Why not bet river? That way you can get calls from sixes and sevens. When you check a better top pair will bet but you have to call anyway and I doubt you induce a lot of bluffs on this board. At least not a often as someone will call with A6

Grease
06-22-2005, 01:18 AM
I was deciding between bet/fold and c/c. I'm not even sure either of those was the best approach to take looking back on it.

ArturiusX
06-22-2005, 01:19 AM
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You'd definitely call getting 10-1, but if you lead the river and it's raised, you're now getting 11-1. What makes that a fold? You MUST call this.

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There's no way we're good 11-1 times here against a river raise.

Brunger
06-22-2005, 01:28 AM
Nobody has shown any strength throughout the hand except for you and the pot is pretty large therefore I don't think that check-folding is good at all.

Grease
06-22-2005, 01:28 AM
Very good point. I did call.

KDawgCometh
06-22-2005, 02:16 AM
hmm, I'm kinda torn on what to do on this flop. I wonder if check raising the flop might not be a bad idea, as someone would have to bet that hand somewhere. BUt betting out is not bad at all and is probably what I would do at that moment. I think leading the river would be the smart play and fold to a raise. the overcaller really sucks here too

Grease
06-22-2005, 02:17 AM
I thought about the c/r, but if if gets checked through, it is a complete disaster.

KDawgCometh
06-22-2005, 02:24 AM
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I thought about the c/r, but if if gets checked through, it is a complete disaster.

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well, yes and no. It will keep the pot small, and we can definetly bet out with confidence on the turn. but like I said, leading out isn't bad at all

Paxosmotic
06-22-2005, 03:35 AM
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You'd definitely call getting 10-1, but if you lead the river and it's raised, you're now getting 11-1. What makes that a fold? You MUST call this.

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There's no way we're good 11-1 times here against a river raise.

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I just don't see a scare card on the river as a good time for what is essentially an informational bet. I've gotta check and call here.