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GetThere1Time
06-21-2005, 11:22 PM
I spewed like crazy. Villian is 28/5/1.9 after 98 hands

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Preflop: Hero is MP with K/images/graemlins/club.gif, K/images/graemlins/spade.gif.
UTG calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, UTG folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero caps</font>, Button calls.

Flop: (10.40 SB) 3/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif, T/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button caps</font>, Hero calls.

Turn: (9.20 BB) 6/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets</font>, Hero calls.

River: (11.20 BB) 5/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets</font>, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 13.20 BB

Where can I fold if anywhere?
smacksoup
06-21-2005, 11:26 PM
no worries... no overplaying,... you're fine. i might even consider c/r or a lead on the turn.
sam h
06-21-2005, 11:28 PM
This was certainly not an overplayed hand and folding anywhere given this action would be terrible.
GetThere1Time
06-21-2005, 11:42 PM
my thoughts were just that he had a pfr of 5% and then he 3-bets me pf and raises a Q high flop after I cap it PF. It still worth a call down incase he might be overplaying AQ? After he capped the flop I felt ill.
RunDownHouse
06-21-2005, 11:59 PM
First, your PT read after 98 hands is not the end-all-be-all. Maybe he ran hot/cold over those hands, maybe he was watching the Spurs game and not paying attention and thus limping, who knows. Its marginally useful information, but don't quote it as "He is xx numbers, he MUST have AA or QQ after a flop cap!"

You didn't overplay at all, and like someone else said, I'd probably give a little more action. I think I prefer a turn lead/call down over c/r and call down, but whatever.
GetThere1Time
06-22-2005, 12:29 AM
Right, I've used PT for a while but just started with GT+ and I think I'm weighing stats too much. After I posted this the game got to 3 hand and the same guy turned into an uberLAG. I dont think he missed a cap.
kiddo
06-22-2005, 07:39 AM
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You didn't overplay at all, and like someone else said, I'd probably give a little more action.

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What are we trying to do when we 3bet our draw out of position? A guy who is raising 5 of the 100 hands we have on him is betting/raising as much as he can and we are going to bet turn or checkraise turn with A high?

If this isnt overplay I dont know what is.
BlueBear
06-22-2005, 08:08 AM
Folding is unthinkable.
RunDownHouse
06-22-2005, 08:55 AM
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What are we trying to do when we 3bet our draw out of position? A guy who is raising 5 of the 100 hands we have on him is betting/raising as much as he can and we are going to bet turn or checkraise turn with A high?

If this isnt overplay I dont know what is.

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Um, we have a big pair here. Personally, I probably would have just called his flop raise and then c/r the turn, because I like to do that with my big overpairs.