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jediael
06-21-2005, 07:10 PM
Party Poker 15/30 Hold'em (10 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with T/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">5 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button 3-bets</font>, SB calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls.

Flop: (10 SB) T/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 4/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 6/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises</font>, SB calls, Hero calls.

Turn: (8 BB) 9/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets</font>, SB calls, Hero ???

Button is tight-aggressive, SB is tight passive. What's my play?
bobdibble
06-21-2005, 07:37 PM
3-bet the flop. If button capps and SB is still around, fold the turn UI. You likely behind to button and there is a &gt;50% chance your outs are tainted by SB.

If button just calls the 3-bet, lead the turn. If button raises, you are probably behind to an overpair or a set of Ts. If SB calls 2, definitly fold. If button raises and SB folds, well, you are behind, but you'll be getting 11:1. Call the raise and fold UI on the river.
dbecham
06-21-2005, 07:38 PM
Personally, i am most likely to fold this hand preflop unless i am in a very wild game. I know its suited and you have reads on your opponents, but there are too many people left to act.

On the flop, I think the check/raise is standard here. I dont think he is very likely to 3 bet you with over cards. Therefore I would check/raise the flop, call a 3 bet and check/fold turn unimproved. If he calls the check raise, I am leading the turn and folding to a raise. I think that sb is on a flush draw or over cards fwiw. Playing the hand this way I believe gives you the most knowledge of others holdings.
bobdibble
06-21-2005, 07:41 PM
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On the flop, I think the check/raise is standard here.

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No. A CR traps SB for bets. The pot is big. You want to knock SB out. Lead into the PFRR.
jediael
06-21-2005, 07:43 PM
thanks a lot, I agree with what you are saying.
jediael
06-21-2005, 07:44 PM
yes, that's why I was leading the flop.
dbecham
06-21-2005, 07:59 PM
does you opinion change if this is HU?
bobdibble
06-21-2005, 08:03 PM
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does you opinion change if this is HU?

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Yes. I would CR this HU and lead from there. If 3-bet, I would lead a non-heart/K/Q/J turn and call down/lead the rest of the way.
Dazarath
06-21-2005, 08:27 PM
Put the button on a range of hands and see if it's worth paying 2 more BB to see if you're beat.

This is what I'd put a TAG on: AKs (hearts), maybe AQs (hearts) if he's feeling frisky, AA-TT, and a small chance that he's pulling a play with 99-77 (that's *if* he even uses that play).

Stats would help too. If his AF is greater than 3, I don't see much reason to think that we may not be ahead. If his PFR is really high, like 14-15+, he may be 3-betting lightly.