My first 200 at 20+2

[ace_in_the_hole]

20+2
Games Played: 200
ROI: 5% /images/graemlins/frown.gif
ITM: 35%

1: 23 11.5%
2: 20 10%
3: 27 13.5%
4: 25 12.5%
5: 26 13%
6: 28 14%
7: 22 11%
8: 10 5%
9: 19 9.5%
T: 21 10.5%


I feeling pretty good about my game. I honestly think a few crazy beats around the bubble kept my ROI down a few % so hopefully my next 10 Days of 200 SnG's will be a bit better "luck wise". Any feedback is welcome and apreciated. Thanks.

[Myst]

How are we supposed to give feedback on your play when all we see are finish percentages? Post some hand histories. Then we start commenting.

[microbet]

Actually you might need some feedback on this.

My 10th place finish percentages:
$11s 2%
$22s 3%
$33s 2%
$55s 0% (I've only played 30)

I'm not saying that is optimal or anything, but 10.5% is crazy, and 20% either 9th or 10th! Even after only 200 tourneys I'm sure you are doing something wrong early.

[Luminous Mist]

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I'm sure you are doing something very, very wrong early.

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Luminous

[gildwulf]

I'm guessing your play from LVL 1-3 is not tight enough with these stats.

It might be a good idea to only play PP 77+ and AK in Lvls 1-3 and throw away smaller pairs and AQ. Try this for 100 or so SNGs and see how your distribution changes. Missing marginally +EV hands early on (22-66 and AQo) and playing fit-or-fold with overcards and PP might increase your ROI substantially.

This is all conjecture though, since we have seen no hand histories.

Good luck.

[treeofwisdom7]

you did good because you got rakeback and if you didnt get rakeback and made 5% then you just suck.

keep up the good work if you think its bad beats then it might be

[Luminous Mist]

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20+2
Games Played: <font color="red">221</font>
ROI: <font color="red">-1.28%</font>
ITM: <font color="red">31.7%</font>

1: 23 <font color="red">10.4%</font>
2: 20 <font color="red">9%</font>
3: 27 <font color="red">12.2%</font>
4: 25 <font color="red">11.3%</font>
5: 26 <font color="red">11.7%</font>
6: 28 <font color="red">12.7%</font>
7: 22 <font color="red">10%</font>
8: 10 <font color="red">4.5%</font>
9: 19 <font color="red">8.6%</font>
<font color="red">10</font>: 21 <font color="red">9.5%</font>


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Gl on your next 221. You most likely will really need it.

Luminous

[Luminous Mist]

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you did good because you got rakeback and if you didnt get rakeback and made 5% then you just suck.

keep up the good work if you think its bad beats then it might be

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WTF are you babbling about?!?!

Luminous

[Freudian]

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I'm not saying that is optimal or anything, but 10.5% is crazy, and 20% either 9th or 10th! Even after only 200 tourneys I'm sure you are doing something wrong early.

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I think there is a very real possibility that OP tries to double up early and then ease his way ITM.

[Luminous Mist]

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I'm not saying that is optimal or anything, but 10.5% is crazy, and 20% either 9th or 10th! Even after only 200 tourneys I'm sure you are doing something wrong early.

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I think there is a very real possibility that OP tries to double up early and then ease his way ITM.

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Of course, this would only be the beginning of his problems...

Luminous

[stupidsucker]

Your distribution is indication that you are too loose too early as microbet implied.

200 is a small enough sample size for this to be inaccurate, but not likely.

From the looks of things you probably play a fine bubble.

GL player

[Isura]

You probably suck with level 1-3 postflop play. That many 9th and 10th finishes is awful.

[TheNoodleMan]

I'm sorry to tell you, those stats look those of a losing player. No winning player is busting out 9th and 10th that often. Just as an example, I have fished 10th only 12 times out of 623.
you clearly have a huge leak in your early level play.
Luckily for you, you have come to the right place, and haven't lost the farm yet. You should read many of the threads here (http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showflat.php?Cat=&amp;Board=singletable&amp;Number=1918735 &amp;fpart=1&amp;PHPSESSID=) before playing any more.
(Also, your numbers don't add up see luminous mysts post)

[Mr_J]

Haven't read other responses but your bustouts from 8th to 10th are very worrying, meaning you are definately playing poorly there whether it is too loose, or bad postflop. Something is costing you.

8th to 10th should be under 5% each, and I don't see how good tight early play could put you much over 10% for all 3 combined.

[ace_in_the_hole]

Thank you for all the feedback. I am going to work on really getting tighter in levels 1-3. Everyone seemed to post only about my 10-8 distribution, but is there anything you can see from my 1-4 distribution. Is my bubble play aggresive enough?

[TheNoodleMan]

the reason everyone is focused on your 8th-10th finishes is because it is glaring. This is what you need to work on. Worry about bubble play after get there, which will happen alot more once you fix this leak. There is no way that you can be a winning player until you fix this. Any time you bust out 10th, there better be a really good reason (like aces or kings in the hole getting beat, or losing with a set to a higher set.)

[RicktheRuler]

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9: 19 9.5%
T: 21 10.5%


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Yikes! Something must be wrong here.

[ace_in_the_hole]

Well, I am very happy to announce that i made an error when displaying my stats because those %'s don;t add up to 100. After looking over my spreadsheet I got the real results. Sorry to everyone who posted about the wrong numbers. How are these?

1 23 11.5%
2 20 10.0%
3 27 13.5%
4 25 12.5%
5 26 13.0%
6 28 14.0%
7 22 11.0%
8 10 5.0%
9 15 7.5%
10 4 2.0%