fold trips on the river?

[cdxx]

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Preflop: Hero is MP3 with 8/images/graemlins/club.gif, 8/images/graemlins/diamond.gif.
UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP2 calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, SB calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, MP2 calls.

Flop: (11 SB) J/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 8/images/graemlins/heart.gif, A/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, UTG folds, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 raises</font>, MP2 calls, Hero calls, SB calls.

Turn: (9.50 BB) T/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, UTG+1 checks, MP2 checks, Hero checks.

i've given up here...

River: (9.50 BB) 5/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 bets</font>, MP2 folds, Hero ???

[cdxx]

btw, i know i had trips and never raised during the hand. still, when should i give up?

[Fantam]

You should have called on the river.

You are correct that you should have 3-bet the flop. It is more likely that other players were betting with one /images/graemlins/heart.gif than a made flush, or else had hands like top pair,2 pair or drawing to a straight.

In particular, when the turn was checked round to you, it was still possible that you had the best hand and you should have bet. If check-raised on the turn, it would then have been reasonable for you to fold.

When UTG+1 bets on the river, it is just as likely that he is having a stab at the pot with a pair, as having the flush. So you should call.

[mmmmmbrother]

dont you have to be 90-93% sure he has a flush? i think hes just betting since no one bet fourth enough times to make this good.

[silkyslim]

I'd 3 bet the flop, bet the turn, fold if check raised. Need to call on the river for one bet due to the size of the pot.

[einbert]

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bet the turn, fold if check raised

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This is a bad idea.

[atnels]

Why in the name of all that is holy would you want to fold to a c/r on the turn when you have 10 outs?

[Dave G.]

3-bet the flop, bet the turn, call the river.

Someone doesn't necessarily have the flush. If someone does have the flush on the turn and you get check-raised, you still have 10 outs to a full house or quads. If your turn bet gets called and its checked to you on this river, you can check through.

Nowhere should you be folding this hand.

[einbert]

I would most likely have three-bet the flop.

I think betting the turn would have been a mistake.

Given how the hand played out, I call the river bet. UTG+1 could easily be betting two pair for value here, although he could have the flush too. I think a call is profitable though.

[Fishlips_Jones]

I don't raise this preflop. I fold on the flop.

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[einbert]

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I fold on the flop.

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Why would you do that /images/graemlins/confused.gif

[Fishlips_Jones]

you're right, I shouldn't fold. Getting 7:1 to hit a full which is 2.6:1 with 2 cards to come.


Fishlips

[einbert]

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you're right, I shouldn't fold. Getting 7:1 to hit a full which is 2.6:1 with 2 cards to come.


Fishlips

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And there is a very high chance that noone has a flush yet, too.

[Fishlips_Jones]

I think, based on the flop action, that it's more likely than not that one player has the flush already. Most probably a small one.


Fishlips