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kurto
06-17-2005, 04:55 PM
As I said, I wasn't sure which torture site it was. It was in Afghanistan. Let me know if you trouble reading it. (Note: this is derived from our own military's report on the incident.)

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In U.S. Report, Brutal Details of 2 Afghan Inmates' Deaths
By TIM GOLDEN
Even as the young Afghan man was dying before them, his American jailers continued to torment him.

The prisoner, a slight, 22-year-old taxi driver known only as Dilawar, was hauled from his cell at the detention center in Bagram, Afghanistan, at around 2 a.m. to answer questions about a rocket attack on an American base. When he arrived in the interrogation room, an interpreter who was present said, his legs were bouncing uncontrollably in the plastic chair and his hands were numb. He had been chained by the wrists to the top of his cell for much of the previous four days.

Mr. Dilawar asked for a drink of water, and one of the two interrogators, Specialist Joshua R. Claus, 21, picked up a large plastic bottle. But first he punched a hole in the bottom, the interpreter said, so as the prisoner fumbled weakly with the cap, the water poured out over his orange prison scrubs. The soldier then grabbed the bottle back and began squirting the water forcefully into Mr. Dilawar's face.

"Come on, drink!" the interpreter said Specialist Claus had shouted, as the prisoner gagged on the spray. "Drink!"

At the interrogators' behest, a guard tried to force the young man to his knees. But his legs, which had been pummeled by guards for several days, could no longer bend. An interrogator told Mr. Dilawar that he could see a doctor after they finished with him. When he was finally sent back to his cell, though, the guards were instructed only to chain the prisoner back to the ceiling.

"Leave him up," one of the guards quoted Specialist Claus as saying.

Several hours passed before an emergency room doctor finally saw Mr. Dilawar. By then he was dead, his body beginning to stiffen. It would be many months before Army investigators learned a final horrific detail: Most of the interrogators had believed Mr. Dilawar was an innocent man who simply drove his taxi past the American base at the wrong time.

The story of Mr. Dilawar's brutal death at the Bagram Collection Point - and that of another detainee, Habibullah, who died there six days earlier in December 2002 - emerge from a nearly 2,000-page confidential file of the Army's criminal investigation into the case, a copy of which was obtained by The New York Times.



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whiskeytown
06-17-2005, 05:02 PM
shhh.....when you tell stories like this, you're hurting Americans overseas and making the Baby Jesus Cry /images/graemlins/confused.gif

nice article - It'd be nice to see the wankers try to justify it as part of the war on terror (the ends justify the means, you know) but if they're smart, they'll shut the [censored] up and stay out of this one.

RB

kurto
06-17-2005, 05:11 PM
I don't know if you were reading the last thread... he jumped in, called everything lies, (of course they're 'liberal lies'), said no one's been killed, he and others are laughing at the idea that anyone's been tortured.

Is just me or is it completely tiresome to see the certain people jump into threads who clearly know nothing about a subject. The more ignorant they are on a subject, they more vocal they are.

There are a lot of people I disagree with who at least know the facts, they just have a different philosophy then I do on its relevence. But the ignorant ones have heard nothing more then 'they played loud music' and 'they're served 2 kinds of fruit' and conclude its all liberal lies.

They should debate less and read more.