sandwhiched between 2 maniacs

[Sinnister]

1st maniac says "my goal is to get rid of all my money in 10 mins" 2nd guy started out as a maniac when the 1st left he chilled out heres 2 hands

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Preflop: Hero is CO with K/images/graemlins/heart.gif, A/images/graemlins/heart.gif.
<font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, SB calls, <font color="#CC3333">BB 3-bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero caps</font>, SB calls, BB calls.

Flop: (12 SB) 8/images/graemlins/club.gif, T/images/graemlins/heart.gif, T/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, SB calls, BB calls.

Turn: (7.50 BB) 9/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, SB calls, BB calls.

River: (10.50 BB) 5/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, Hero calls, SB folds.

Final Pot: 12.50 BB

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
BB has 3d Kd (one pair, tens).
Hero has Kh Ah (one pair, tens).
Outcome: Hero wins 12.50 BB. </font>


I took down a nice pot with ace high
which led to

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Preflop: Hero is BB with 6/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 6/images/graemlins/diamond.gif.
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP3 calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Button calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls.

Flop: (8.50 SB) 6/images/graemlins/club.gif, T/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 9/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 raises</font>, MP3 folds, Button calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 caps</font>, Button calls, Hero calls.

Turn: (10.25 BB) 5/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 raises</font>, Button calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 caps</font>, Button calls, Hero calls.

River: (22.25 BB) Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, MP1 calls $1.25 (All-In), <font color="#CC3333">Button raises</font>, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 26.87 BB

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
Hero has 6s 6d (three of a kind, sixes).
MP1 has 4h Kh (flush, king high).
Button has 5c Qd (two pair, queens and fives).
Outcome: MP1 wins 24.12 BB. Hero wins 2.75 BB. </font>

which led to this horrid predicament


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Preflop: Hero is UTG with K/images/graemlins/heart.gif, A/images/graemlins/spade.gif.
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP2 calls, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, SB calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero caps</font>, MP2 calls, MP3 calls, SB calls.

Flop: (17 SB) J/images/graemlins/club.gif, J/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 8/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 3-bets</font>, MP3 calls $2 (All-In), <font color="#CC3333">SB caps</font>, Hero calls, MP2 calls.

Turn: (15.50 BB) J/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(4 players, 1 all-in)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 3-bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB caps</font>, Hero calls, MP2 calls.

River: (27.50 BB) 7/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(4 players, 1 all-in)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 3-bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB caps</font>, Hero calls, MP2 calls.

Final Pot: 39.50 BB

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
SB has Jh 9s (four of a kind, jacks).
Hero has Kh As (three of a kind, jacks).
MP2 has 3h 8h (full house, jacks full of eights).
MP3 has Tc Ac (three of a kind, jacks).
Outcome: SB wins 39.50 BB. </font>



Plz keep in mind that players in the positions are the same on each hand. EDIT thats wrong but the guy to my left was maniac the other one was extremely loose aggressive with any piece maniac could jave 23o

Was i dumb to call this down with ak?

[nomadtla]

1st hand SB probably had you both with a weak 8 and you just got lucky. Not terribly played.
2nd hand, it's a bad beat by a bad donk, it happens.
3rd hand is straight up tilt. Even the guy with AcTc played the hand slightly better. So in short yes calling down was dumb even donks hit when they only need one card to make a boat

[Sinnister]

I dunno i felt a strong possibility that i had them both beat. It was still way to expensive to find out. It was a very big mistake just wanted some opinions should i have check/folded the flop even against 1 guy gettin rid of all his nmoney and the second who was playing the same way

[Catt]

What in the world are you doing in that last hand?

[silkyslim]

i think you were blinded by the fact that you took the pot down with AK, then mad about the bad beat with your set. Chill out even though they are maniacs, they still have two cards in their hand.

[nomadtla]

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I dunno i felt a strong possibility that i had them both beat. It was still way to expensive to find out. It was a very big mistake just wanted some opinions should i have check/folded the flop even against 1 guy gettin rid of all his nmoney and the second who was playing the same way

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In hand 3? Even though you have AK with this board your overs are worth maybe 3 outs and IMO thats being very generous. You know these guys are gonna make you pay heavy no matter what they have, fold to the SB open bet on the flop. Let them have their "fun" and wait till you have a better oportunity and a flop that acctually helps your hand.

[Donkey Kong]

My 1st post... /images/graemlins/smile.gif
Here we go. I dont have much to say about the first two hands, I'd probably play them about the same way as you did.
However, on the third hand I would have folded the second I got re-raised on the flop. I often raise the flop to see what happens even when a flop turns me down like that, but when you get a message from two other guys that "hey, i caught at least a piece of the flop", you're in trouble (even if you perceived them as maniacs). With that scary board there's a good chance you're drawing nearly dead, so for me its an easy fold.
The rest of the hand was just awful. /images/graemlins/frown.gif

[aK13]

Hand 1: Looks great.

Hand 2: I'd cap the river too -- if he's a true maniac, you are likely to have his entire range destroyed.

Hand 3: Overplayed. I probably wouldn't raise after the flop gets capped, but it doesn't look like either player is going to let any street go uncapped anyway, and I don't see a fold anywhere except on the river.

No results in the future. =P They cause results-oriented thinking.