Standard?

[Bigwig]

Would you do something different?

Party $50

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t50 (8 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

Hero (t1015)
BB (t1675)
UTG (t1040)
UTG+1 (t895)
MP1 (t1190)
MP2 (t1250)
CO (t825)
Button (t2110)

Preflop: Hero is SB with Q/images/graemlins/club.gif, K/images/graemlins/club.gif.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls t50, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP2 calls t50, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Hero completes, BB checks.

Flop: (t200) J/images/graemlins/club.gif, 9/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 8/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
Hero checks, BB checks, UTG+1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 bets t200</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t965 (All-In)</font>

[johnnybeef]

yep

[BDarch]

I'd do the same

[Myst]

Lol two overcards/ 2nd nut flush draw / inside straight draw with folding equity?

Even us tighties gotta play this one big...

[Bigwig]

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Lol two overcards/ 2nd nut flush draw / inside straight draw with folding equity?

Even us tighties gotta play this one big...

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Oh, I know that we must play the hand, heh. I'm just wondering if anyone would take a different line.

[Myst]

What other line is there? Flat calling the bet with the intention of pushing any turn?

[Bigwig]

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What other line is there? Flat calling the bet with the intention of pushing any turn?

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Betting the flop. It's such a strong draw, that I don't think it would be horrible. I'm just asking.

Personally, I want to be the one going all-in, so I check here. But I'm interested in other opinions.

[curtains]

I believe your play is correct.

[Karak567]

Would you call an all-in with this hand?

I know I would, but would anyone else? I am assuming you guys would. Just checking my line :-P.

[zaphod]

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What other line is there? Flat calling the bet with the intention of pushing any turn?

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Betting the flop. It's such a strong draw, that I don't think it would be horrible. I'm just asking.

Personally, I want to be the one going all-in, so I check here. But I'm interested in other opinions.

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I am usually not a fan of checkraising. But here it makes sense. If you make a standard bet on the flop and get called you are not happy when an blank card hits the turn.

It seems better to get all your chips in the middle on the flop when you are likely to have the best hand.

[Rickfish]

What is your estimate of the EV of these scenarios?
1. Your play.
2. You check the flop and no one bets.
- a. the turn does not help you (and may contain scare cards, e.g. 7 /images/graemlins/diamond.gif)
- b. the turn makes your hand
3. You bet the flop
- a. everyone folds
- b. someone raises all in (you call)

It is not intuitively clear cut to me.

[string4]

*in the dark, critique welcome*

I wouldn't be risking my stack on a draw in Lvl III, even this good of one, especially when my push probably pushes other overcallers out of the pot. I'm calling this and deciding whether to make my move or not on the turn.

[Scuba Chuck]

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*in the dark, critique welcome*

I wouldn't be risking my stack on a draw in Lvl III, even this good of one, especially when my push probably pushes other overcallers out of the pot. I'm calling this and deciding whether to make my move or not on the turn.

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This line is a leak, IMO.

[Jason Strasser]

For psychological reasons you could just raise to something like 600 because it tends to get folding equity vs bad players more than an all in. If you are against anyone decent tho its all the same. Also, If you raise to 600 and get called and miss the turn you may be able to get a check check from a newbie on the draw and then u can shove the river and get A high to fold? I dunno all weird ideas. Your play is obv standard.

-Jason

[johnnybeef]

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*in the dark, critique welcome*

I wouldn't be risking my stack on a draw in Lvl III, even this good of one, especially when my push probably pushes other overcallers out of the pot. I'm calling this and deciding whether to make my move or not on the turn.

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op doesnt have enough chips for that. furthermore, he is pretty much raising for value with this strong of a draw.

[kyro]

No, why? Would you?

[kuro]

Calling just spews off chips. You need folding equity + seeing the turn and river to get full value out of your hand. Which is why check-raising all-in is standard here.

[durron597]

This is how I would play it.

[junkmail3]

I think this is a pretty easy push in your situation.

But let's look at this situation:

Party $50

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t50 (8 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

Hero (t1015)
BB (t1675)
UTG (t1040)
UTG+1 (t895)
MP1 (t1190)
MP2 (t1250)
CO (t825)
Button (t2110)

Preflop: Hero is SB with Q/images/graemlins/club.gif, K/images/graemlins/club.gif.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls t50, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP2 calls t50, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Hero completes, BB checks.

Flop: (t200) J/images/graemlins/club.gif, 9/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 8/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
Hero checks, BB checks, UTG+1 checks, MP2 checks.

Turn: (t200) 4/images/graemlins/diamond.gif
Hero?

This may look easy from here, I think.

I would bet the pot. But what would you do if villian took the following three actions?

Raised all in:
Raised to t600:
Called: (Which leads to missing on the river, because hitting is way to easy):