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dfoote
06-16-2005, 03:12 PM
Third hand of a PP $55. No reads.

Hero (BB) and Villain (CO) both with starting stacks.

Hero dealt QQ. Villain raises to 90, Hero reraises to 200, Villain reraises to 500. Uh-oh.

Hero ?

Lady Dont Tekno
06-16-2005, 03:17 PM
I don't play the $55s yet so I haven't adjusted to the 200 extra chips nor the better opponents.

So taking into account that my advice is: You have queens. Push!

//LDT

Myst
06-16-2005, 03:18 PM
Hero folds. The reraise is AA or KK 80% of the time, if not more.

Lady Dont Tekno
06-16-2005, 03:18 PM
They won't play AK hard?

//LDT

Myst
06-16-2005, 03:19 PM
Not at the 55s.... and very rarely would they minireraise like that at the 33s too.

Lady Dont Tekno
06-16-2005, 03:20 PM
My bad I thought Party players were worse.

//LDT

dfoote
06-16-2005, 03:24 PM
Indeed it was.

Did I just play a three way pot with you 20-30 minutes ago: you were AK, I was 99, small stack Ax caught a flush.

kyro
06-16-2005, 03:27 PM
..doesn't raise to 200 next time.

Without a read, I might get out now. There are idiots at the $55s, but the majority of the time you're up against a monster.

Myst
06-16-2005, 03:28 PM
Lol, I remember the 99 hand. Its this one...

#Game No : 2216066702
***** Hand History for Game 2216066702 *****
NL Hold'em $50 Buy-in + $5 Entry Fee Trny:13145236 Level:5 Blinds(100/200) - Thursday, June 16, 14:50:25 EDT 2005
Table Table 11240 (Real Money)
Seat 8 is the button
Total number of players : 6
Seat 1: Mystraised ( $1720 )
Seat 2: ddf68 ( $1490 )
Seat 8: gambino1982 ( $425 )
Seat 4: Norman___ ( $1030 )
Seat 7: harness72 ( $2865 )
Seat 5: morganoxford ( $2470 )
Trny:13145236 Level:5
Blinds(100/200)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Mystraised [ Ac Kc ]
>You have options at Table 12952 Table!.
Norman___ folds.
morganoxford folds.
harness72 folds.
>You have options at Table 12951 Table!.
gambino1982 is all-In [425]
bfk78: nice catch
>You have options at Table 12906 Table!.
Mystraised is all-In [1620]
ddf68 is all-In [1290]
** Dealing Flop ** [ 4s, 8s, 3s ]
morganoxford: thx
** Dealing Turn ** [ 2s ]
** Dealing River ** [ Qd ]
Mystraised shows [ Ac, Kc ] high card ace.
ddf68 shows [ 9h, 9d ] a pair of nines.
gambino1982 shows [ Kd, 6s ] a flush, eight high.
Mystraised wins 230 chips from side pot #2 with high card ace.
ddf68 wins 2130 chips from side pot #1 with a pair of nines.
gambino1982 wins 1275 chips from the main pot with a flush, eight high.

The overcall was horrible, IMHO. If a tight/solid player reraises all in, you gotta give them respect for JJ+, AK. QQ is only 50% versus that range.

Myst
06-16-2005, 03:29 PM
[ QUOTE ]
..doesn't raise to 200 next time.

Without a read, I might get out now. There are idiots at the $55s, but the majority of the time you're up against a monster.

[/ QUOTE ]

So what do you suggest? Flatcalling? You have to reraise to find out where you are at . Albeit, his minireraise is probably too small... Id do it to at least 225-250.

kyro
06-16-2005, 03:32 PM
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
..doesn't raise to 200 next time.

Without a read, I might get out now. There are idiots at the $55s, but the majority of the time you're up against a monster.

[/ QUOTE ]

So what do you suggest? Flatcalling? You have to reraise to find out where you are at . Albeit, his minireraise is probably too small... Id do it to at least 225-250.

[/ QUOTE ]

Meh, at first I thought flatcalling, but I'm beginning to sway the other way..

wookie
06-16-2005, 03:37 PM
You push, but if the Villain has anything you are probably against AK - oh well. He may also have AA or KK, but those are a little less likely, if I recall correctly. (In a similar situation that I was in not too long ago, the Villain also had QQ...) There is a decent chance the Villain is making a play, however - so your push will be good. And if not, another 55 is starting in just a moment... - w

dfoote
06-16-2005, 04:28 PM
Yeah, you'll notice I had trouble laying down QQ in the op.

My thinking went like this:

99 "sweet", ss allin, "really sweet, gonna bust him", you all in, "let's gamble, damnit". I don't recall if you stuck around to see Morgan put me out with consecutive hands of AA and KK.

I've had six forays into $55 and they've left me on permanent $55 tilt.

zambonidrivr
06-16-2005, 04:36 PM
no way do i lay this down. if you lose, just fire up another one.