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stillbr
06-15-2005, 10:26 PM
I'm playing the party 33's if it matters...anyways..

My highest percent finish is 1st. Very close behind that though is 6th. To me this indicates that I may being too aggressive, and not patient(sp?) enough when i have a medium chip stack around level 4.

What do yall think about this?

kyro
06-15-2005, 10:29 PM
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I'm playing the party 33's if it matters...anyways..

My highest percent finish is 1st. Very close behind that though is 6th. To me this indicates that I may being too aggressive, and not patient(sp?) enough when i have a medium chip stack around level 4.

What do yall think about this?

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I'm the same way. And I'm basically crushing the $55s. It's normal I think.

Myst
06-15-2005, 10:29 PM
Its impossible to be too agressive with a medium stack in Level 4, unless you are literally pushing with any two. Probably just low sample size, as all. It will even out in time.

My largest finishing place is 5th, with 15.6% of my games occuring at that position. This is after 2236 games.

valenzuela
06-15-2005, 10:30 PM
im worried today my avg. finish was 10th, my ROI -100 and my ITM 0.

partygirluk
06-15-2005, 10:30 PM
Firstly, 150 SnGs is too small to draw firm conclusions on this kind of matter.

Remember the payout structure is 50/30/20

So if you finish 1st 20 of them time and never 2/3 it is the same as 0/10/10. So, you should be looking to be aggresive and get in first place. A big leak for some people is playing too tight around the bubble and hence squeaking a lot of 3rd places and a high ITM%, but this game is about making money, not making the money.

valenzuela
06-15-2005, 10:33 PM
well here are my stats 1 45
2 39
ROI 3 37
13,56811357 4 27
ITM 5 37
36,33633634 6 47
AVG. FINISH 7 43
4,852852853 8 27
TOTAL WINNINGS 9 20
497 10 11

edit: grrr at 2+2.

Freudian
06-15-2005, 10:33 PM
Read the quoted part (http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showthreaded.php?Cat=&Number=2319689&page=0&view=c ollapsed&sb=5&o=14&vc=1) of this post. I think it may apply here.

wiggs73
06-15-2005, 11:13 PM
I have the same sort of distribution over my first 100. There's a recent thread on here with more details. But I'm not sure if it's good / bad / standard / something to be worried about.

PokerCat69
06-15-2005, 11:35 PM
Most people suggest you should wait till level 4 to start stealing, and during levels 1-3 you should stick to QQ-AA, AK.
(I include JJ/AQs, but posters here feel that is too loose) With parties blind structure you are often blinded more then 3 times before reaching level 4. Its normal to have severals players lose their entire stacks on lvl 1-2.
Level 4 finally comes around and your the short stack with ~600 chips and 2-3 players have 1200+.

You start pushing and can expect to get called from time to time & lose, and that is why 5/6/7 will have a very high finish %. Its not that important because if your able to steal a couple blinds or double up your in great shape to finish ITM. The guys playing crap lvl 1 are the same people you need to beat on the bubble and finish first. Easy if you can get there. Infact making it to the 4-handed stage with a decent stack is WAY harder then going from the bubble to first.

BradleyT
06-15-2005, 11:43 PM
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and during levels 1-3 you should stick to QQ-AA, AK.
(I include JJ/AQs, but posters here feel that is too loose)

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I doubt any winning player on here has ever said playing JJ in level 1-3 is too loose.

wiggs73
06-15-2005, 11:46 PM
Yeah, and if you can play it for cheap, I like playing other PPs at these levels too. Others may argue. But I don't mind limping to try to hit a set.

PokerCat69
06-16-2005, 01:47 AM
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and during levels 1-3 you should stick to QQ-AA, AK.
(I include JJ/AQs, but posters here feel that is too loose)

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I doubt any winning player on here has ever said playing JJ in level 1-3 is too loose.

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Perhaps they are not winning players, but some have infact stated it.

45suited
06-16-2005, 01:48 AM
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I'm playing the party 33's if it matters...anyways..

My highest percent finish is 1st. Very close behind that though is 6th. To me this indicates that I may being too aggressive, and not patient(sp?) enough when i have a medium chip stack around level 4.

What do yall think about this?

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1) Relatively small sample size so it's hard to draw any concrete conclusions.

2) More importantly, without more information, it is completely impossible (for me at least) to form any opinion. The most important being, what is your ROI? Let's say that somehow your aggressive play with six players left allows you to finish 1st 17% of the time or more, my guess is that there's nothing to worry about.

I would not even analyze my finish distribution if I was happy with my ROI.

If you have an ROI of 40% but are concerned about too many 6th place finishes, it would be like Barry Bonds saying, "I hit .380 but I take too many pitches." Just because something can be tracked doesn't mean that it has any great importance IMO.

Ogre
06-16-2005, 01:50 AM
ITM or 5th 6th is my style too

jon462
06-16-2005, 04:48 AM
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ITM or 5th 6th is my style too

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1st is my top percentage, followed by 4th.. what does that mean? lol

ricochet420
06-16-2005, 06:54 AM
In order hi to low, 1st, 6th, 3rd, 2nd and 4th are tied, 9th, 8th and lastly 10th. What does this mean? /images/graemlins/wink.gif ROI 37.7 /images/graemlins/laugh.gif ITM 43.9 avg finish 4.56 my numbers are 29.68/15.8/2.87