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Jeff W
06-15-2005, 06:48 PM
UTG+1 is 18/10/4.3 over 560 hands.

Party Poker 20/40 Hold'em (9 handed) converter

Preflop: Jeff is MP2 with Kh, Kd. UTG posts a blind of $20.
UTG+1 calls, 1 fold, Jeff raises, 5 folds, UTG+1 calls.

Flop: (5.50 SB) Ts, As, 6h (3 players)
UTG+1 checks, Jeff bets, UTG+1 calls.

Turn: (3.75 BB) Kc (3 players)
UTG+1 checks, Jeff bets, UTG+1 raises, Jeff 3-bets, UTG+1 caps, Jeff calls.

River: (11.75 BB) 2h (3 players)

UTG+1 bets...

Grease
06-15-2005, 06:57 PM
Do you see him limping up front with QJs? If he knows that you know that he knows, I would just call, but I think there is a good possibility you have the good end of set over set. 66 seems like the likely culprit, AA is out, as is TT.

I would raise and call a 3-bet. I would be more hesitant to raise if he knows you're TAG, but couldn't bring myself to not raise KK here.

mute
06-15-2005, 06:59 PM
I would put in one more raise on the river. I think he will have two pair or 66 often enough (Given his aggression stats I think he could easily cap the turn here even without top two pair).

brettbrettr
06-15-2005, 07:02 PM
I'd pop him once more but that's all.

Nick C
06-15-2005, 07:05 PM
Well, your opponent's 4.3 postflop number does indicate that he's very aggressive.

He's shown so much strength in this hand, though, that I'm having trouble putting him on anything other than 66 or QJ with much confidence (once we take his preflop limp into account). I suppose maybe AT and KT are possible, but you'd think he'd start worrying about being behind with those hands, after you 3-bet his turn checkraise, and the same could be true for 66. And while I guess he could have something like KsJs, I doubt that's his hand, and I'm wondering if he'd pay off a river raise with it anyway.

Anyway, I don't know the 20/40 at all, but at 3/6, I'm just calling the river bet. But I don't run into many TAGs at 3/6 that are as aggressive as your opponent. And I don't think many of my 3/6 opponents worry about free-showdown raises, whereas your opponent might.

DBowling
06-15-2005, 07:33 PM
his hand range might include KT, QJ, AT, 66, A6s(maybe), KQ/KJspades (maybe). raise. If he 3bets you, i think you can narrow this to 66 or QJ. QJ is more frequent, unless you think he would only limp QJs. You have be ahead 50% to cap. If this is the range of 3 betting hands, no cap. If you think he might 3bet AT, KT, you can cap.