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Bill Murphy
01-14-2003, 10:28 PM
I'll spare the background but in the last couple days I've heard the new[usually only] albums by Avril Lavigne, Michelle Branch, Vanessa Carlton=beyond mega-hottie, & Xtina=porno hottie; as well as Tori Amos' latest & Alanis 2nd from '98, for comparison.

Xtina Aguilera - Man, this sucked. Really sucked, on every level. X obviously has a great voice, but she needs to fire every single person involved on every level of musical career and start from scratch. Laughably bad. Step one: stop going pause-"Hmm"-pause five times a song.

Britney - Didn't hear the CD, but I did think that her last song, "Not A Girl", was a big step in the right direction; away from the big production, Janet Jackson type stuff. She also wisely took a break & dropped the restaurant. Only problem is she can't sing a note. Her voice is more processed/filtered than Ozzy's.

Avril - Not really fair to judge someone so new; lotta spunk & potential. The marketing of her as a 'punk' is ludicrous; the CD almost approaches bubblegum. She has been helped greatly by a very skilled team, much as everyone around her plays that down. She just bought the first Ramones album, so time'll tell. /forums/images/icons/laugh.gif

Michelle Branch - I thought this CD was fairly repetitive, but I do think Everywhere is a great pop single. She has a producer/co-writer/musician svengali type like Alanis had w/Glen Ballard for Jagged Lil' Pill, so we'll see if she can grow beyond it, like Alanis did.

Vanessa Carlton - By far the most talented of the bunch, especially as a musician and the only one who soley writes her songs & appears to have a pre-existing, functioning, permanent band. Least poppy, almost jazz-torch in places. Not me cuppa, tho I do like 1000 Miles. A real funny smart-ass in interviews, and resembles a young Jennifer Connelley. /forums/images/icons/blush.gif /forums/images/icons/cool.gif Will become huge star, or at least more digestible-to-masses Tori Amos[see below]. In for long haul.

Pink - For completeness sake. All I've heard is Get This Party Started/forums/images/icons/cool.gif 7 Enemy To Myself[sux]. Can't judge, but it shouldn't be hard for her to replace Gwen Stefani as the 'fun kook' or whatever that category is.

Now, a coupla old bags for comparison:

Tori Amos - An absolute nut, as are most her fans, and her CDs are usually all over the place. I think Silent All These Years & Crucify are fantastic songs, and that her Strange Lil' Girls album is the worst collection of covers ever recorded except for the title track, although picking a Slayer song=sick genius. Her latest, Scarlet's Walk, is by far her most consistent & accessible to the penised, but it's WAAAY too long, 77 minutes. Coupla songs are almost Beatlesque. A real unique/original, but best in small doses.

Alanis - Her second CD, Infatuation Junkie[1998], was her dealing w/the mega success of JLPill. She obv'lly did a better job handling it than Cobain, although SFIJ ain't near as good as In Utero. 1/2 good-to-great, 1/2 unlistenable. Her latest is by far her best, despite the horrid title. She's cut the yelping way down, and toned down somewhat the "You, you, you man, you" rants. Definitely the current gold standard of the female singer/writer/musician, although Carole King still sleeps soundly. She's also taken total control in the studio.

The youngsters got their work cut out, but mostly appear to be on the right track.

And, now, after this estrogen OD, I'm ready for some actual Slayer. /forums/images/icons/laugh.gif

Glenn
01-15-2003, 04:48 AM
My reviews:

Aguilera: Sings well. Sings garbage.

Britney: Can't Sing. Sings garbage.

Avril: The establishment created anti-establishment girl. Her image would have been rebelious and original right at the beginning of the thankfully short lived ska-sk8er period about 7 years ago. Her music doesn't suck as bad as the first two, but, in the end, it still sucks.

Michelle Branch: more formulaic crap

Vanessa Carlton: Lesser of evils, not horrible for pop, although pop is by definiton horrible.

Pink: Somewhere between hitting my thumb with a hammer and hitting my pinky with a hammer.

Tori Amos: Your comments are right on. She is a wacko, but has found a good niche in the industry.

Alanis: Alanis and Tori should not even be grouped with the above. She actually brings something of her own to the industry. Good for her.

I'll add a few more:

Sheryl Crow: I really don't like her music, but she is a cut above the rest talent wise. She will be around for a while, even with me not buying her albums.

Norah Jones: I can't believe you left out Norah. Her album is actually good. The songwriting could be a touch more complex, but her voice is an amazing throwback to old jazz singers. She will go far. Even if she never writes a song again, her voice is so good she will end up as a famous cover singer. She will be amazing if she incorporates a little more into her music, and I believe she will given her formal training.

Jewel: Her first album was great. Folk almost made a comeback. Then she release the overprocessed crap she called her second and third albums. She got famous with slightly gritty sounding music. She should go back to that. I have a lot of MP3's of her singing live and they are great -- the best being her belting out a vocal/piano rendition of The Rolling Stones' "Wild Horses", but I don't bother with the studio versions. There is a world of difference.

K Minogue: Scares me since she looks like an evil elf. Still somehow attractive. I like her better than most of the people because she accepts that she is a dance music singer and hasn't really tried to turn herself into things she's not.

Dixie chicks: I thought me and the dixie chicks could peacefully coexist in the world without ever interacting. Then they released the Landslide cover and I mistakenly listened. How awful!

Shania Twain: Good looking, decent voice. Bad music. Seems very cool in interviews though. I would invite her to a barbecue at my house.

Kelly Clarkson: I picked Kelly from the beginning, before everyone jumped on the bandwagon. Great voice. Of course, the songs that she released after she won were a disgrace to the industry. I don't think they could have done a worse job.

Kelly Osborne: HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA

Clarkmeister
01-15-2003, 01:46 PM
Personal favs for whatever reason:

1. Melissa Etheridge - Hasn't had a bad CD yet. Simply the best. Puts on a concert like no other.

The rest, in the order they come to mind:

Shawn Colvin - Fat City was a great CD

Fiona Apple - What a voice, love the sound of her music.

Christina Aguilera - Once she matures beyond the crap she does now, she will be phenomenal. Has that big black womans voice in that teeny white girl body.

Tori Amos - Not so much a fan of her recent stuff, but Little Earthquakes was great.

Natalie Merchant - Where'd she go?

Alanis - Saw her in concert with Tori. Her stage presense sucked, but her music certainly doesn't.

Anita Baker - Rapture is one of my 10 favorite CDs ever.

M2d
01-15-2003, 03:36 PM
What about Alicia Keys? any opinions?

Glenn
01-15-2003, 06:38 PM
Melissa's great.

Fiona's good.

I miss Natalie too.

IrishHand
01-15-2003, 06:58 PM
Re. Avril Lavigne - The marketing of her as a 'punk' is ludicrous

Actually, as I understand it, the reverse is the problem. The record execs want to market her as a teen pop star. The problem is that she's basically a skater chick who's been given a pile of decent music to sing. Have faith...I'm sure the money and fame will corrupt away her 'punk' self-image.

baggins
01-16-2003, 05:30 PM
tori amos is the only one in the bunch that i have any musical respect for.

the rest suck. even the ones that write their own music.

if you want good female artists, check out joni mitchell, sinead o'connor, ani difranco, carole king, and maybe even bjork.

i dont see how even avril lavigne can call herself punk. punk is dead.