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AEKDBet
06-15-2005, 05:55 AM
SB ($76)
BB ($768.6)
<font color="#C00000">Hero ($402)</font>
MP ($371)
CO ($385)
<font color="#C00000">Button ($415)</font>

Preflop: Hero is UTG with Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif, Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif. SB posts a blind of $2.
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $10</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Button calls $10, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB calls $6.

Flop: ($32) 5/images/graemlins/heart.gif, J/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 8/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $20</font>, Button calls $20, BB calls $20.

Turn: ($92) 7/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets $35</font>, BB calls $35, Hero calls $35.

Does my turn check suck?

If I was heads up on the turn what would you do?

This turn felt like opponent just made his hand and has 9 T

River: ($197) Q/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
BB folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $50</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $150</font>, Hero calls $100.

What an idiotic weak lead by me..... should have checked right? My friend was watching this hand and I actually said "Watch a queen come on the river".

Not really concerned with the final call or fold but would like feedback on the turn and river play.
Thanks,
- AEKDBet

Yeti
06-15-2005, 05:57 AM
You can't really automatically put someone on T9 on the turn.

Raise more preflop. Bet more on the flop. Then I'd bet the turn as well.

If you're convinced he has T9 obviously betting the river makes no sense but I wouldn't feel too awful about getting that much money in with top set.

thabadguy
06-15-2005, 06:01 AM
I dont mind the turn check call very much, although i would most likely lead it 80% of the time. River, i hate CR 75%, lead pot 25%.

AEKDBet
06-15-2005, 06:18 AM
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You can't really automatically put someone on T9 on the turn.


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Yeah, this kind of thinking makes me play weak sometimes.

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Raise more preflop.


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Very curious Yeti, as you are a 6-maxer. Do you keep raises standard UTG with big pairs? (My standard raise is 12 here, but I'm always varying between 10 and 12)

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Bet more on the flop.


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Whats the reasoning for this? I wanted to bet more, but I've been trying to stick to the 2/3 pot rule.

Prevaricator
06-15-2005, 07:34 AM
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I dont mind the turn check call very much, although i would most likely lead it 80% of the time. River, i hate CR 75%, lead pot 25%.

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uh what do you mean?

thabadguy
06-15-2005, 07:39 AM
I dont mind the turn check call very much, although i would most likely lead it 80% of the time. River, i hate your play, I CR 75%, lead pot 25%.
Me no speaka de englis .

Yeti
06-15-2005, 07:41 AM
In the $400 I would make it $16 with everything. Personally I feel like $12 is a little low. $10 is definitely too low.

Your small bet on the flop gives them a pretty cheap turn card, you're giving the BB almost 4-1 to peel.

AEKDBet
06-15-2005, 08:14 AM
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you're giving the BB almost 4-1 to peel.

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Makes sense. Opponent had 77.

AEKDBet
06-15-2005, 08:17 AM
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I dont mind the turn check call very much, although i would most likely lead it 80% of the time.

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How much you lead here.

slickpoppa
06-15-2005, 09:31 AM
Raising to 10 is a huge mistake, especially since you are UTG. Even in a 6 max game, you don't want to create a medium, multiway pot with QQ.

AceHiStation
06-15-2005, 09:53 AM
I'm a little perplexed to see people aren't all for pushing over the top on the river. If he has T9 I pay him off, but I expect to stack another set with a miracle river car 95% of the time. Anyone else confused by the river call?

FourKing Hell
06-15-2005, 09:58 AM
I'd raise to 16 preflop as well.

Bet the pot on the flop. Why stick to 2/3? Because you also want to steal some of the time and do it cheaply? I say if you want to steal from two callers, you pretty much have to bet pot to keep them from staying in with a draw. Same goes if you have a hand. It makes more sense to me to 2/3-pot it in 2-way pots.

Also bet the turn, and abandon your hand if you're raised. I don't think AJ would call the flop and raise the turn, so you can safely fold as anything that's raising you is bound to be better than you, or a bluff. If you're called, plan check-fold the river. Same if it were heads up.On the turn, a 2/3 or 3/4 pot bet makes more sense to me. If you're called, you're worried - your hand is not good enough to want to put as much money in as possible.

I say pot the river (and of course call a raise). Two-pair hands will likely call, and there's only one straight that beats you. But with all the weak betting that's been going on, you can't put an opponent on exclusively that.