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meep_42
06-14-2005, 09:16 PM
SB is a TAG, the others are unknown or unremarkable.

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Preflop: Hero is Button with A/images/graemlins/spade.gif, K/images/graemlins/heart.gif.
<font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, MP2 calls, MP3 calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP2 calls, MP3 calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero caps</font>, SB calls, MP2 calls, MP3 calls.

Flop: (17 SB) J/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 7/images/graemlins/spade.gif, Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, MP2 checks, MP3 checks, Hero...

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dblgutshot
06-14-2005, 09:24 PM
If you bet, you are most likely getting checkraised. I'm not quite sure if that is what I want. If it's heads up with SB I think I want to get to showdown, so trying to get rid of Mp2 and Mp3 might be a good idea, but I don't think they are folding any piece of this flop. I think K7 or KJ or AJ is calling 2 if SB checkraises. Ahhhh i suck at poker.
PokerBob
06-14-2005, 09:26 PM
I think I bet here. A c/r would suck, but not be the end of the world. Hopefully I'd get a free one on the turn.
aK13
06-14-2005, 10:38 PM
I'd rather just check here and take my free card while I have the chance, and pray for a T.
private joker
06-14-2005, 10:44 PM
Damn, dude, did you totally ignore this thread? (http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showflat.php?Cat=&amp;Board=smallholdem&amp;Number=2618655 &amp;Forum=,All_Forums,&amp;Words=&amp;Searchpage=0&amp;Limit=25&amp;M ain=2618655&amp;Search=true&amp;where=&amp;Name=19577&amp;daterang e=&amp;newerval=&amp;newertype=&amp;olderval=&amp;oldertype=&amp;bodyp rev=#Post2618655)
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brettbrettr
06-14-2005, 10:44 PM
I think I'm betting here.
brettbrettr
06-14-2005, 10:45 PM
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Damn, dude, did you totally ignore this thread? (http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showflat.php?Cat=&amp;Board=smallholdem&amp;Number=2618655 &amp;Forum=,All_Forums,&amp;Words=&amp;Searchpage=0&amp;Limit=25&amp;M ain=2618655&amp;Search=true&amp;where=&amp;Name=19577&amp;daterang e=&amp;newerval=&amp;newertype=&amp;olderval=&amp;oldertype=&amp;bodyp rev=#Post2618655)
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You had 2 more opponents. That's a big difference IMO. I liked a check in yours. I like a bet here, I think.
private joker
06-14-2005, 10:45 PM
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I think I'm betting here.

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I think you're wasting a bet (or two) there.
private joker
06-14-2005, 10:47 PM
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You had 2 more opponents. That's a big difference IMO. I liked a check in yours. I like a bet here, I think.

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That is a difference, and so is the fact that Hero represents big strength by capping, where as I just had the opportunity to 3-bet. But the size of the pot is the same, and I don't think betting gets anyone out here.
27offsooot
06-14-2005, 10:47 PM
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elindauer
06-14-2005, 10:54 PM
Since you capped preflop, your hand looks like AA or KK to your opponents. You are less likely than normal to be check-raised here. Bet and hope to take a free card on the turn. If you are check-raised, you might want to 3-bet looking for that elusive free card. Your hand will just look huge at this point.

I think it's close though, checking isn't bad.

my 2 cents.
Eric
LinusKS
06-14-2005, 11:21 PM
My first instinct was to bet, but that's wrong.

If the sb is a TAG, and three-bet a field from first position, he's got AA-QQ, or AK. Maybe JJ or AQ.

Gutshot is right. The MP's called two and then a cap preflop. If they hit something, they're not folding now.

Take the free-card and pray for a ten.
Moozh
06-14-2005, 11:35 PM
Put me in the check camp. I just don't see you getting a free card on the turn regardless of whether you bet or not. Instead, take the one free card offered to you and be prepared to fold the turn if you have to.
meep_42
06-14-2005, 11:45 PM
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Damn, dude, did you totally ignore this thread? (http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showflat.php?Cat=&amp;Board=smallholdem&amp;Number=2618655 &amp;Forum=,All_Forums,&amp;Words=&amp;Searchpage=0&amp;Limit=25&amp;M ain=2618655&amp;Search=true&amp;where=&amp;Name=19577&amp;daterang e=&amp;newerval=&amp;newertype=&amp;olderval=&amp;oldertype=&amp;bodyp rev=#Post2618655)
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totally missed it.

I felt bad for posting this after I thought about it a second... a bet, I think, is terrible.

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mr pink
06-15-2005, 12:30 AM
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I think you're wasting a bet (or two) there.

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hero capped the sb's 3-bet pf, i don't think he's getting check/raised here all that often. and while yeah, it would suck, it's not the end of the world. i think it's worth a bet here in a 17sb pot to try and get a cheap look at the river, especially with the gutshot.