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Chief911
06-14-2005, 08:35 PM
Checkup Time. I seem to be specializing in playing 4 hours of a rebuy, only to bust out on the bubble (Which I dont care about THAT much, I care about the final table).

First of all, am I the only person who can't get the converter to work for Pokerstars tourney hands?

Ok, to the hands:

Villian and I are the same stack at around 75k. Villian has snapped off a number of people on raises, usually with 3x or allin reraises.

Hero is UTG+2 with TT. I've been fairly active as well. I raise 3xBB to 9k. Villian makes it 15k from MP, and all fold to me. I call. Flop is 47J with two hearts. I check, villian bets out 6k.




Second hand. Donkish player from MP goes allin for 25k. I have 55k and am holding 88. It should be noted that donk had called an allin previously with ATo, and gone allin with A4o. Your move?

Third hand. Hero is at 20k with KK in MP. Standard move is to push. Do you ever consider 3x'ing it (9k)? Or is that just stupid? Lets pretend hero donks it and makes it 3xBB. Active SB calls, and flop is AT7r. SB bets 6k. Hero... (Commits suicide).

Comments on all 3 hands appreciated.

Nick

hurlyburly
06-14-2005, 09:07 PM
hand 1 - Unless I'm reading that he fears me a little, I'm giving credit for the overpair, especially since he's breaking pace here. I don't know what's worse, calling it down or folding to 6k.

hand 2 - I wimp out and fold here, only to wonder later. If it's early enough that rebuilding from 30k is reasonable, I'll call. At 3k blinds, I'm out.

hand 3 - You have no choice on this one. You are committed. Push.

Chief911
06-14-2005, 09:10 PM
Oh, and also, if you wanna see full transcript, I'd love some critiqueing of unlisted hands from the endgame.

Rebuy Page (http://www.bockhouse.com/rebuy1.html)

Prime Time
06-14-2005, 09:24 PM
started to look at this.
If you are going to play these, you need to rebuy right away, and when ever you can, and add on.
Or else don't play.

Chief911
06-14-2005, 09:26 PM
Ignore that part. That was unusual. I wasn't sure whether I was going to be able to play the whole thing. =)

Prime Time
06-14-2005, 09:29 PM
[ QUOTE ]
Ignore that part. That was unusual. I wasn't sure whether I was going to be able to play the whole thing. =)

[/ QUOTE ]

Anything else I should ignore b4 I spend time reviewing this /images/graemlins/smile.gif

Prime Time
06-14-2005, 09:33 PM
Hand 3 is down right awful.
I don't know if I can continue this.

This hand should not even be played.

Chief911
06-14-2005, 09:35 PM
I did hate myself for calling the river bet. Bad me.

But I'll play any two during the rebuy period. Why not?

Nick

Prime Time
06-14-2005, 09:36 PM
/images/graemlins/smile.gif

PokerStars Game #1898985263: Tournament #8871037, Hold'em No Limit - Level I (10/20) - 2005/06/14 - 16:47:15 (ET)
Table '8871037 57' Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: captgwg (1480 in chips)
Seat 2: Chief911 (1490 in chips)
Seat 3: 1826money (1470 in chips)
Seat 4: JARED21 (1480 in chips) out of hand (moved from another table into small blind)
Seat 5: redwbase (3170 in chips)
Seat 6: Sisko (2980 in chips)
Seat 7: Low On Dough (2980 in chips)
Seat 8: mistakooll (1450 in chips)
Seat 9: ONLY_NUTS (2980 in chips)
redwbase: posts small blind 10
Sisko: posts big blind 20
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Chief911 [6c Qd]
Low On Dough: folds
mistakooll: folds
ONLY_NUTS: folds
captgwg: folds
Chief911: calls 20
JARED21 has returned
1826money: folds
redwbase: folds
Sisko: checks
*** FLOP *** [3c 8c Qc]
Sisko: checks
Chief911: bets 60
Sisko: calls 60
*** TURN *** [3c 8c Qc] [8s]
Sisko: checks
Chief911: checks
*** RIVER *** [3c 8c Qc 8s] [2d]
Sisko: bets 620
Chief911: calls 620
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Sisko: shows [Ac 9c] (a flush, Ace high)
Chief911: mucks hand
Sisko collected 1410 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 1410 | Rake 0
Board [3c 8c Qc 8s 2d]
Seat 1: captgwg folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: Chief911 mucked [6c Qd]
Seat 3: 1826money (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: redwbase (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 6: Sisko (big blind) showed [Ac 9c] and won (1410) with a flush, Ace high
Seat 7: Low On Dough folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: mistakooll folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: ONLY_NUTS folded before Flop (didn't bet)

MLG
06-14-2005, 09:36 PM
Hand 1. Raise the flop to 15/20k. If he calls be done with the hand. Calling here is ok too, but I'd rather make my decision now.

Hand 2. Push

Hand 3. If you dont push preflop you cant fold postflop.

Chief911
06-14-2005, 09:36 PM
Yes yes yes. No need to rub it in.

Nick

Prime Time
06-14-2005, 09:40 PM
Hand 9 was fun

PokerStars Game #1899024762: Tournament #8871037, Hold'em No Limit - Level I (10/20) - 2005/06/14 - 16:53:57 (ET)
Table '8871037 57' Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: captgwg (770 in chips)
Seat 2: Chief911 (2150 in chips)
Seat 3: 1826money (1430 in chips) is sitting out
Seat 4: JARED21 (1530 in chips)
Seat 5: redwbase (6130 in chips)
Seat 6: Sisko (3660 in chips)
Seat 7: Low On Dough (2330 in chips)
Seat 8: mistakooll (3010 in chips)
Seat 9: ONLY_NUTS (2970 in chips)
Chief911: posts small blind 10
1826money: posts big blind 20
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Chief911 [2d 8d]
captgwg re-buys and receives 1500 chips for $10.00
JARED21: calls 20
redwbase: raises 40 to 60
Sisko: folds
Low On Dough: folds
mistakooll: folds
ONLY_NUTS: folds
captgwg: folds
Chief911: calls 50
1826money: folds
JARED21: calls 40
*** FLOP *** [3h Tc 2h]
Chief911: checks
JARED21: checks
redwbase: bets 200
Chief911: calls 200
JARED21: folds
*** TURN *** [3h Tc 2h] [6h]
Chief911: checks
redwbase: checks
*** RIVER *** [3h Tc 2h 6h] [2c]
Chief911: bets 620
1826money has returned
redwbase: calls 620
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Chief911: shows [2d 8d] (three of a kind, Deuces)
redwbase: mucks hand
Chief911 collected 1840 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 1840 | Rake 0
Board [3h Tc 2h 6h 2c]
Seat 1: captgwg (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: Chief911 (small blind) showed [2d 8d] and won (1840) with three of a kind, Deuces
Seat 3: 1826money (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 4: JARED21 folded on the Flop
Seat 5: redwbase mucked [Ad 3s]
Seat 6: Sisko folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: Low On Dough folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: mistakooll folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: ONLY_NUTS folded before Flop (didn't bet)

Prime Time
06-14-2005, 09:42 PM
hand 12

Chief911 said, "hoeee"

LOL

Chief911
06-14-2005, 09:43 PM
Good reason why any two will do during the rebuy period.

Nick

Chief911
06-14-2005, 09:49 PM
Chat wise I was pretty quiet this whole one.

Nick

Prime Time
06-14-2005, 09:50 PM
Unfortunate.
But I would have reraised the flop.

PokerStars Game #1899143829: Tournament #8871037, Hold'em No Limit - Level II (15/30) - 2005/06/14 - 17:13:04 (ET)
Table '8871037 57' Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: captgwg (2165 in chips)
Seat 2: Chief911 (2945 in chips)
Seat 3: Znam (9635 in chips)
Seat 4: JARED21 (900 in chips) is sitting out
Seat 5: redwbase (3490 in chips)
Seat 6: Sisko (1835 in chips)
Seat 7: Low On Dough (2985 in chips)
Seat 8: mistakooll (6010 in chips)
Seat 9: ONLY_NUTS (3505 in chips)
Znam: posts small blind 15
JARED21: posts big blind 30
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Chief911 [2h 2d]
redwbase: raises 90 to 120
Sisko: folds
Low On Dough: folds
mistakooll: calls 120
ONLY_NUTS: calls 120
captgwg: calls 120
Chief911: calls 120
Znam: calls 105
JARED21: folds
*** FLOP *** [Ah 2s Jc]
Znam: checks
redwbase: checks
mistakooll: bets 30
ONLY_NUTS: folds
captgwg: raises 240 to 270
JARED21 has returned
Chief911: calls 270
Znam: folds
redwbase: folds
mistakooll: folds
*** TURN *** [Ah 2s Jc] [Kc]
captgwg: bets 240
Chief911: raises 2315 to 2555 and is all-in
captgwg: calls 1535 and is all-in
*** RIVER *** [Ah 2s Jc Kc] [Tc]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
captgwg: shows [Qd Ad] (a straight, Ten to Ace)
Chief911: shows [2h 2d] (three of a kind, Deuces)
captgwg collected 4870 from pot
Chief911 said, "argh"

Chief911
06-14-2005, 09:54 PM
Why? I want everyone and their cousin catching a second best hand vs. a set.

Nick

Prime Time
06-14-2005, 09:58 PM
I am done w/ this hand on the flop.

*********** # 41 **************
PokerStars Game #1899229710: Tournament #8871037, Hold'em No Limit - Level III (25/50) - 2005/06/14 - 17:26:44 (ET)
Table '8871037 57' Seat #7 is the button
Seat 1: captgwg (5345 in chips)
Seat 2: Chief911 (4705 in chips)
Seat 3: Znam (12550 in chips)
Seat 4: Guimp (6325 in chips)
Seat 5: redwbase (2325 in chips)
Seat 6: Sisko (5715 in chips)
Seat 7: Low On Dough (4610 in chips)
Seat 8: mistakooll (4560 in chips)
Seat 9: ONLY_NUTS (4460 in chips)
mistakooll: posts small blind 25
ONLY_NUTS: posts big blind 50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Chief911 [Ac Jc]
captgwg: folds
Chief911: calls 50
Znam: folds
Guimp: raises 200 to 250
redwbase: folds
Sisko: folds
Low On Dough: folds
mistakooll: folds
ONLY_NUTS: folds
Chief911: calls 200
*** FLOP *** [9c 8d 9d]
Chief911: checks
Guimp: bets 350
Chief911: calls 350
*** TURN *** [9c 8d 9d] [8h]
Chief911: checks
Guimp: checks
*** RIVER *** [9c 8d 9d 8h] [Ks]
Chief911: bets 550
Guimp: calls 550
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Chief911: shows [Ac Jc] (two pair, Nines and Eights)
Guimp: shows [Qd Kd] (two pair, Kings and Nines)
Guimp collected 2375 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 2375 | Rake 0
Board [9c 8d 9d 8h Ks]
Seat 1: captgwg folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: Chief911 showed [Ac Jc] and lost with two pair, Nines and Eights
Seat 3: Znam folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: Guimp showed [Qd Kd] and won (2375) with two pair, Kings and Nines
Seat 5: redwbase folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: Sisko folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: Low On Dough (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: mistakooll (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 9: ONLY_NUTS (big blind) folded before Flop

hurlyburly
06-14-2005, 09:58 PM
Here's the donkeyfish perspective:

188 - I'd have worked harder for him to commit, make it 8500-9k

Chief911 said, "tey took teh queen of etiquette, martha steward, away from us" - better with no context, lmao

197 - This looks like a good time for a steal to me.
198 - Looks like you regretted not stealing too.
212 - Make it 5k preflop? Give yourself a reason to make a continuation bet, if nothing else

Other than that you look tip-top...

Prime Time
06-14-2005, 10:03 PM
You play goot...
What happen to the river value bet?

*********** # 53 **************
PokerStars Game #1899302006: Tournament #8871037, Hold'em No Limit - Level IV (50/100) - 2005/06/14 - 17:38:07 (ET)
Table '8871037 57' Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: captgwg (4070 in chips)
Seat 2: Chief911 (2805 in chips)
Seat 3: Znam (12100 in chips)
Seat 4: Guimp (7100 in chips)
Seat 5: redwbase (2750 in chips)
Seat 6: Sisko (8715 in chips)
Seat 7: Low On Dough (4460 in chips)
Seat 8: mistakooll (7785 in chips)
Seat 9: ONLY_NUTS (3810 in chips)
Chief911: posts small blind 50
Znam: posts big blind 100
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Chief911 [8d Kd]
Guimp: folds
redwbase: calls 100
Sisko: folds
Low On Dough: folds
mistakooll: folds
ONLY_NUTS: folds
captgwg: folds
Chief911: calls 50
Znam: checks
*** FLOP *** [Js 8s 3d]
Chief911: checks
Znam: checks
redwbase: bets 100
Chief911: raises 100 to 200
Znam: folds
redwbase: calls 100
*** TURN *** [Js 8s 3d] [2h]
Chief911: bets 400
redwbase: calls 400
*** RIVER *** [Js 8s 3d 2h] [Jd]
Chief911: checks
redwbase: checks
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Chief911: shows [8d Kd] (two pair, Jacks and Eights)
redwbase: shows [6h 8h] (two pair, Jacks and Eights - lower kicker)
Chief911 collected 1500 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 1500 | Rake 0
Board [Js 8s 3d 2h Jd]
Seat 1: captgwg (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: Chief911 (small blind) showed [8d Kd] and won (1500) with two pair, Jacks and Eights
Seat 3: Znam (big blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 4: Guimp folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: redwbase showed [6h 8h] and lost with two pair, Jacks and Eights
Seat 6: Sisko folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: Low On Dough folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: mistakooll folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: ONLY_NUTS folded before Flop (didn't bet)

USCUNC
06-15-2005, 12:38 AM
First hand... you need to be more aggressive on TT late in the tourney is usually a good hand. If you are agressive he folds.

Second - Fold

Third - on the RECORD - I hate KK - especially on PStars. Just lost the $5.50 rebuy for the $160 with it (Again) - But, in this position and with your size stack... You've got to be all in up front. If you win the blinds. Then great. If you get called, hopefully its by just one person. Some dude with A2 off is likely to call you and you are dead on fifth street.... when that stupid ace comes calling... But you gotta push..