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A_C_Slater
06-13-2005, 09:46 PM
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t200 (9 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

Button (t10285)
Hero (t1698)
BB (t4010)
UTG (t6135)
UTG+1 (t3915)
MP1 (t17876)
MP2 (t7609)
MP3 (t2503)
CO (t4565)

Preflop: Hero is SB with K/images/graemlins/spade.gif, J/images/graemlins/club.gif.
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to t400</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP1 calls t400, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP3 calls t400, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t1673</font>


The mini-raise and the preflop cold calls seem weak. Is this a standard push from the SB with this stack size?

DireWolf
06-13-2005, 09:48 PM
meh, i don't really like it. maybe if the mini-raiser was in the co.
I fold here, and steal next chance i get.

A_C_Slater
06-13-2005, 09:54 PM
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meh, i don't really like it. maybe if the mini-raiser was in the co.
I fold here, and steal next chance i get.

[/ QUOTE ]

Right.

But in this situation I have a chance to take down a bigger pot if all fold or get right back in the middle of a tourney if someone calls (which I'm sure somone would) and I get lucky and win.

If I wait for another situation I will increase my chances of taking down the blinds, but there will be much less money involved.

Sean D
06-13-2005, 09:56 PM
Sure, the original callers may be weak, but now pot odds dictate a call for any of the players in the pot. And KJ is not a hand that you want a call with. UTG's minraise may mean he's weak, but I've seen it may mean the exact opposite. You'll be OTB next hand with enough free hands to take a stand/steal with. Fold and move on.

DireWolf
06-13-2005, 10:10 PM
oops. I didn't see all the cold callers. Now i like it a lot better than i did before.

mlagoo
06-13-2005, 11:13 PM
I really don't like this push.

Half the incentive for pushing allin with a short stack is (hopefully) you have enough to just take down the blinds uncontested. In this case, I would rate your chances at taking down this pot without being called at 5%, tops.

So you're basically putting yourself in a position where any ace is ahead and you're very possibly dominated. Your best hope here is to be called by an underpair and be a coinflip. I certainly don't like to be in a situation where my "best hope" is 50/50.

So yeah, I fold here. Find a better spot where no one has entered the pot yet.