PDA

View Full Version : Should I bet this turn or peel off a free card?


dawade
06-13-2005, 08:24 PM
My opponent is a calling station like you would not believe. 66%VPIP/4%PFR/.87AF

I figure either he has paired one of his cards at this point so can I safely count my A) Flush outs, B) Straight outs, C) Overcard outs for full value and bet this turn?

Party Poker 0.5/1 Hold'em (5 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

Preflop: Hero is Button with Q/images/graemlins/club.gif, J/images/graemlins/club.gif.
UTG calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, SB calls, BB calls, UTG calls.

Flop: (8 SB) 2/images/graemlins/club.gif, 5/images/graemlins/club.gif, T/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, SB folds, BB folds, UTG calls.

Turn: (6 BB) 8/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG calls.

River: (8 BB) 3/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG calls.

Final Pot: 10 BB

Anders_G
06-13-2005, 08:33 PM
yes, bet the turn.

clownshoes
06-13-2005, 08:36 PM
I dont bet the turn

Anders_G
06-13-2005, 08:40 PM
4+6+9 = 19/46 = 0,41

Those are very good chanses of making a hand, but if he NEVER fold the turn you obviously should check behind.

ggbman
06-13-2005, 08:53 PM
I see this turn as an easy bet.

mungpo
06-13-2005, 09:14 PM
Yes, bet the turn.

mperich
06-13-2005, 09:26 PM
Against this particular player I probably check the turn. You are not ahead, and don't have enough outs to bet for value. Besides, he could have you reverse dominated since he obviously likes to play trash.

Against pretty much any other opponent I like a bet here though.

-Mike

JrJordan
06-13-2005, 09:45 PM
I check this turn and I think it's fairly easy. UTG bets out in a multiway pot, odds are as the poster mentioned that he has a pair, perhaps a T or 5. Likewise, poster made a read that villain is a CALLING STATION. In other words, a loose passive with a pair in a HU situation, he will fold to the turn bet approximately... never.

You are most likely behind at this point. You have many, many outs but not enough to be betting this turn for value. Check this for the free card, hope villain bets out again with his low pair and raise him when you hit one of your bajillion outs. This way you get 2BB when you're ahead, and don't lose any when behind (versus lose 1BB by betting the turn).

It all comes down to fold equity, and against this type of player it's safe to assume you have none.

dawade
06-13-2005, 10:00 PM
Just for the record, I was behind to the 10's headed to the final card then opponent flipped over the 10 high flush.

whodaman
06-13-2005, 10:52 PM
vs this opponent its an easy check... you dont think your value betting q high, so why bet if he won't fold?
I dont think he has ace high. He wouldn't lead that into the pfr would he?