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mtdoak
06-12-2005, 10:01 PM
Reads: BB is a Loose/passive player.
SB is a HUGE donk. UTG+1 is loose preflop, but solid after the flop.


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Preflop: Hero is CO with T/images/graemlins/spade.gif, K/images/graemlins/diamond.gif.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP2 calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls, Button calls, SB completes, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises</font>, UTG+1 calls, MP2 calls, Hero calls, Button calls, <font color="#CC3333">SB 3-bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB caps</font>, UTG+1 calls, MP2 calls, Hero calls, Button calls, SB calls.

After the preflop cap, I have a pretty solid read that SB has a big pair. I have no idea what the SB is holding, probably something to juice the pot. Given the pot odds, i call and pray for a miracle flop....

Flop: (24 SB) J/images/graemlins/heart.gif, Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif, A/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(6 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 3-bets</font>, MP2 folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero caps</font>, Button folds, SB calls, BB calls, UTG+1 calls.


Hallelujah! We gots us a monster. Now I just hope the board doesn't pair...

Turn: (20 BB) 5/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 3-bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero caps</font>, SB calls, BB calls, UTG+1 calls.

Well, I'm getting at least HALF of this...


River: (36 BB) 5/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 3-bets</font>, Hero folds, <font color="#CC3333">SB caps</font>, BB calls, UTG+1 calls.

Final Pot: 48 BB

Standard? or an awful 'expert laydown' in a big pot. I'm about 95% the BB boated up give the action so far.

belloc
06-12-2005, 10:26 PM
Wow, just, wow. I really hope you were beat.

sy_or_bust
06-12-2005, 10:35 PM
You were definitely beat. Wow..

DemonDeac
06-12-2005, 11:10 PM
worst. river.ever

Catt
06-12-2005, 11:14 PM
Well, that river sucks.

kurosh
06-12-2005, 11:22 PM
You have to be good here 8.33% of the time... I'm pretty sure you're beat and you have to lay it down, but man, if I would've won, I would go kill myself.

Actually nm, I would call this. I couldn't live with myself if I would've won.

Moozh
06-12-2005, 11:23 PM
The only think I'm a bit unsure of is the first limp pre-flop. KTs is automatic. With KTo, I usually like to be able to raise a weak limper and limit the number of opponents in the pot. By limping, you're playing an easily dominated hand against a large field with opponents who seem to like to play very aggressively. In my opinion, that's not an ideal situation for KTo.

I was thinking you might be able to fold once it came back to you capped, but you were getting 10:1 from late with a pot that was likely to keep growing. So, other than the first limp, I think the rest is fine.

jskills
06-12-2005, 11:23 PM
Amazing laydown.

Given that there were two villans, I not sure I could be 100% certain the one guy filled up, but I'm suspecting the donk in the SB made his flush, so either way, you're cooked.

That's a damn shame. NH.

Mike Gallo
06-12-2005, 11:24 PM
Preflop I would prefer a raise then a limp.

Given the pot odds, i call and pray for a miracle flop....

Really horrible reason to play a hand.


I would call the river and if I lost to a boat or a flush oh well thats what I get for playing K 10 offsuit in a capped pot that I did not raise in hoping for a miracle that turned into a nightmare.

Too many players could have AK AQ or AJ to fold. Only KJ suited could go runner runner to beat you with a flush. I cant see any other two random spades calling to hit a flush.

mtdoak
06-13-2005, 01:24 AM
Perhaps it was worded wrong, would this be better:

After the cap I'm pretty sure I'm behind. However, I am getting 10-1 to call and I have position.

Petteri
06-13-2005, 02:38 AM
Considering action I think you can be 95 % sure you are beaten.

You are getting 12-1 odds on river, but I think here folding river to 3-bet against 3 players is solid play.