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NYCNative
06-12-2005, 07:55 PM
Ultimate Bet No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t20 (7 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

MP1 (t1560)
MP2 (t1385)
Hero (t1470)
Button (t1925)
SB (t3745)
BB (t3345)
UTG (t1570)

Preflop: Hero is CO with Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif, Q/images/graemlins/club.gif.
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP2 calls t20, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t90</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, BB calls t70, MP2 folds.

Flop: (t210) T/images/graemlins/club.gif, 6/images/graemlins/club.gif, 6/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t210</font>, BB calls t210.

Turn: (t630) 6/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t1170 (All-In)</font>, BB calls t1170.

River: (t2970) 8/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: t2970

Results below:
BB has Qs 6h (four of a kind, sixes).
Hero has Qh Qc (full house, sixes full of queens).
Outcome: BB wins t2970.

Note: This is NOT technically a bad beat post because the moron had me all the way.

valenzuela
06-12-2005, 07:58 PM
bah, another bad beat post. /images/graemlins/mad.gif

Voltron87
06-12-2005, 07:59 PM
yes, youre a moron, we know.

adanthar
06-12-2005, 08:01 PM
[ QUOTE ]
Flop: (t210) T/images/graemlins/club.gif, 6/images/graemlins/club.gif, 6/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t210</font>, BB calls t210.

Turn: (t630) 6/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

[/ QUOTE ]

You put him on...

(hint: pushing to get rid of his flush draw is dumb)

NYCNative
06-12-2005, 08:02 PM
It said 100% content free above. If you clicked it and I'm a moron, what does that make you?

LeVoodoo
06-12-2005, 08:03 PM
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It said 100% content free above. If you clicked it and I'm a moron, what does that make you?

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A guy who knows a moron when he sees one.

NYCNative
06-12-2005, 08:03 PM
I actually put him on AT.

Voltron87
06-12-2005, 08:04 PM
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It said 100% content free above. If you clicked it and I'm a moron, what does that make you?

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you being a moron has nothing to do with this thread.

NYCNative
06-12-2005, 08:07 PM
They have a feature to ignore posters. I ask you do put me on your ignore list. In fact, I demand it since I don't allow assholes to read my posts.

KingDan
06-12-2005, 08:07 PM
To make LC posts, you should occasionally contribute to a thread.

Voltron87
06-12-2005, 08:09 PM
wait, you demand me to put you on ignore?

why don't you just put me on ignore?

mjm
06-12-2005, 08:11 PM
Why did you go all-in after the turn? You are only going to get called if you are behind. You could have found out if he had the 6 for a bet a 3rd of the size you bet.

tminus
06-12-2005, 08:13 PM
recipe for the typical 2+2 post:

1. loose preflop caller
2. one whining victim
3. a few bleeding deacons

NYCNative
06-12-2005, 08:13 PM
I went all-in because I thought he had AT and would call with it.

LeVoodoo
06-12-2005, 08:18 PM
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Why did you go all-in after the turn? You are only going to get called if you are behind. You could have found out if he had the 6 for a bet a 3rd of the size you bet.

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At an 11 there is really no reason not to put all your chips in the middle here (though not necessarily on the turn like this guy did).
Betting half the pot (or whatever) won't tell you if he has a 6. These donks could have anything.

NYCNative
06-12-2005, 08:21 PM
[ QUOTE ]
Betting half the pot (or whatever) won't tell you if he has a 6. These donks could have anything.

[/ QUOTE ]Which is why I went all-in. 90% of the time in this case at the $11s, villain had AT - or hell, even KT - and they will call that bet 100% of the time.

Kevin K.
06-12-2005, 08:23 PM
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I actually put him on AT.

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Put him on a range of hands.

Voltron87
06-12-2005, 08:25 PM
what he means is, "i really hoped he had at"

NYCNative
06-12-2005, 08:26 PM
[ QUOTE ]
recipe for the typical 2+2 post:

1. loose preflop caller
2. one whining victim
3. a few bleeding deacons

[/ QUOTE ]Correct except I'm not whining, I'm actually laughing because I could post (but don't) the 100+ times I win this hand because villain has AT or even worse. I may be a moron but i realize that bad players help my bankroll even if they frustrate me often times. This one was just so ridiculous I thought I'd share it. With the warning in the subject, it was easy to skip by but I did know that there WOULD be some posts about strategy here and thus far it did stimulate such posts.

There are a few 100% content-free responses from a hypocrite or two above, naturally... /images/graemlins/smile.gif

LeVoodoo
06-12-2005, 08:29 PM
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Put him on a range of hands.

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At an 11, I'd put villain on 22-AA, Tx and AK. Even 78/79/89 are not out of the realm of possibility.
There are only three hands out of these that I don't want to see.

NYCNative
06-12-2005, 08:32 PM
My range of hands involved only one hand I would lose to )(TT) and I was gambling that he didn't have that.

I saw villain having AT (I actually said that aloud when I bet - talking to myself is a sign of insanity) or KT. The hands that would beat me other than TT - KK, AA, or anything with a 6 did not even enter my mind. Why? Because most of the time villain doesn't just call my PF raise with KK or AA at this level, they raise or reraise me.

6x didn't enter my mind because usually even the most donkified types at these tables realize that hand sucks in the face of a raise.

So I did put him on a range of hands. Can I be blamed for not including 6x? This is not a whining question, I'm serious, because if we have to assume that villain has quads in this case, we will never win a pot being too scared to bet unless we hold the absolute nuts.

valenzuela
06-12-2005, 08:35 PM
Youre not getting berated by your play or by your post, youre just being berated by being ,well..u, this is my interpetration..maybe voltron will give some inside.
About the hand, other posible holdings are: AA,KK,JJ. I would be more cautios rather than just going all-in, if you have AA then I dont see how can anyone question your play, but QQ is far more trciky than just betting and betting if no overcards come( a 6 doesnt scare me but AA or KK does)however if you saw him doing stupid stuff before I think u played it fine.

NYCNative
06-12-2005, 08:37 PM
Hey, Speedy Gonzalez, I addresed this above.

Now run along and break some more international banking laws. Or multi-table the $55s with $400 in your roll.

Blarg
06-13-2005, 04:34 AM
LOL. As Bugs Bunny would say, DIS means war!