Some Weak-Tight blind defense hands [Archive]

og5

06-12-2005, 04:27 PM

Blind defense is my biggest weakness and I realize I can't progress to the tougher games until I improve. (At any level above Stars 2/4 it seems the game becomes more of a blind steal/isolation game) I'm going to post my (weak tight) thoughts along with my hands so hopefully you guys can point out my flawed thinking.

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Preflop: Hero is SB with 2/images/graemlins/club.gif, 2/images/graemlins/heart.gif.
2 folds, CO raises, Button calls, 1 fold, BB 3-bets, CO calls, Button calls.

A CO raise indicates a more powerful hand than a BT raise, also the BT coldcall has me worried and I'm in the small blind. Small pairs are my most uncomfortable hands (without set odds) Fold

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Preflop: Hero is SB with 5/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 6/images/graemlins/spade.gif.
3 folds, Button raises, Hero calls, BB calls.

Suited connector in the SB, I think a solid defending hand because I may be able to chase a draw (not with odds) or if the board is very favorable (no broadway card or maybe 1 small) I may defend if I hit a pair

Flop: (6 SB) Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 3/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, T/images/graemlins/heart.gif (3 players)
Hero checks, BB checks, Button bets, Hero folds, BB calls.

Ok I have nothing, I was glad the BB came along improving my odds to draw to something but with no draw, fold

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Preflop: Hero is BB with 8/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 7/images/graemlins/spade.gif.
3 folds, SB raises, Hero calls.

I hate this guy he constantly steals, I make a loose call hoping to thrash him if I hit a favorable flop.

Flop: (4 SB) A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, A/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 2/images/graemlins/spade.gif (2 players)
SB bets, Hero folds.

Could there be a worse flop? I'm behind to bascially anything unless he tried to steal with smaller rags which I don't think he did. He is loose aggressive on the small streets (not so much on the big ones) but still without much of a hand I don't like to fight back. I fold.

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Preflop: Hero is BB with 9/images/graemlins/heart.gif, T/images/graemlins/club.gif.
2 folds, CO raises, 1 fold, SB calls, Hero calls.

Two medium connected cards could hold up on a nice flop, I don't like that the SB came along though so if I hit something I'll bet out immediately hoping the PFR will raise him out.

Flop: (6 SB) 6/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 4/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 6/images/graemlins/heart.gif (3 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, CO bets, SB folds, Hero folds.

2 overcards against either a pair or stronger overcards. Fold

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Preflop: Hero is BB with K/images/graemlins/club.gif, 6/images/graemlins/club.gif.
1 fold, MP raises, 2 folds, Hero calls.

Flop: (4.50 SB) J/images/graemlins/spade.gif, J/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 6/images/graemlins/heart.gif (2 players)
Hero bets, MP calls.

Turn: (3.25 BB) 5/images/graemlins/heart.gif (2 players)
Hero bets, MP raises, Hero folds.

Turn raise looks legit, I don't think my hand is good here. Good laydown?

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Preflop: Hero is BB with 8/images/graemlins/heart.gif, K/images/graemlins/diamond.gif.
UTG raises, 2 folds, Hero calls.

Flop: (4.50 SB) 6/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 5/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 9/images/graemlins/spade.gif (2 players)
Hero bets, UTG raises, Hero calls.

Finally a good flop to take a shot at, but against a UTG raise 4 handed. I go into call down mode after his flop raise

Turn: (4.25 BB) T/images/graemlins/spade.gif (2 players)
Hero checks, UTG checks.

River: (4.25 BB) K/images/graemlins/heart.gif (2 players)
Hero bets, UTG raises, Hero calls.

I didn't like this line, should I bet/fold the turn instead?

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Preflop: Hero is BB with T/images/graemlins/spade.gif, K/images/graemlins/spade.gif.
3 folds, Button raises, SB calls, Hero calls.

Flop: (6 SB) 7/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 9/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 6/images/graemlins/spade.gif (3 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, Button bets, SB calls, Hero calls.

great flop, gutshot plus flush draw. I didn't want the PFR to knock out the SB so I checked it. Is this an easy bet?

Turn: (4.50 BB) A/images/graemlins/heart.gif (3 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, Button checks.

River: (4.50 BB) Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets, Button folds, SB folds.

The turn check shows weakness but I still don't know what the river bet accomplished, just check/fold it?

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Preflop: Hero is BB with J/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, K/images/graemlins/spade.gif.
3 folds, Button raises, SB calls, Hero calls.

Is KJo a 3bet?

Flop: (6 SB) K/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 7/images/graemlins/spade.gif, K/images/graemlins/heart.gif (3 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, Button bets, SB folds, Hero calls.

Turn: (4 BB) 3/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (2 players)
Hero bets, Button folds.

Unfortuantely it didn't go how I wanted it to, I didn't like a flop checkraise because I thought it'd give away my hand and hoped he wouldn't buy a donkbet on the turn. What do you guys think?

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Preflop: Hero is BB with A/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 4/images/graemlins/heart.gif.
4 folds, SB raises, Hero calls.

I don't like defending with big-littles but Ax is an exception especially against an SB steal. Is this a 3bet?

Flop: (4 SB) A/images/graemlins/heart.gif, J/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 3/images/graemlins/heart.gif (2 players)
SB bets, Hero calls.

I'm way ahead of most of his possible holdings so I think its safe to wait to raise the turn?

Turn: (3 BB) Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (2 players)
SB bets, Hero raises, SB calls.

River: (7 BB) 9/images/graemlins/spade.gif (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets, SB calls.

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Preflop: Hero is SB with 4/images/graemlins/heart.gif, A/images/graemlins/heart.gif.
2 folds, Button raises, Hero calls, BB calls.

Flop: (6 SB) 6/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, T/images/graemlins/club.gif, 3/images/graemlins/spade.gif (3 players)
Hero checks, BB checks, Button checks.

Turn: (3 BB) 3/images/graemlins/heart.gif (3 players)
Hero checks, BB checks, Button bets, Hero folds, BB folds.

This one seems especially weak but I as up against a tricky stealer and didn't want to fight on the big streets. I think I should have bet the turn anyways?

You'll see I pretty much never bluff or make fancy plays because I think these will put me in more money lossing situations than they will pay off. This is probably weak thinking though so if anyone wants to advise me what situations I should look for to try to knock someone off their hand I'd appreciate it.

Thanks

wrto4556

06-12-2005, 04:33 PM

22 is a pretty easy call from the SB.

A /images/graemlins/heart.gif,4 /images/graemlins/heart.gif I 3-bet to a button raise.

og5

06-12-2005, 04:36 PM

I can see the 3bet with A4s. I don't understand the call with 22 are we looking to hit a set or are you going to defend on a junky board?

wrto4556

06-12-2005, 04:41 PM

The button cold called, so you have odds to hit a set but I would defend on a good board, too.

twankerr

06-12-2005, 04:48 PM

Hand 1 is fine after the overcall. No button overcall and I raise a good chunk of the time, folding a small amount (sometimes I just don't wanna think)

Hand 2 is fine. If BB is aggressive, I will fold.

Hand 3 is fine. If you were going to fight back, smoothcalling and raising the turn will represent the ace best.

Hand 4 is boring

Hand 5 is pretty standard, unless he is capable of semibluffing with Ax (A /images/graemlins/heart.gif) in this spot.

Hand 6 fold preflop, fold the river. Turn bet is read dependant. Will he fold overcards? Overcards + gutshot?

Hand 7 flop could be raised after SB overcalls. It will help define PFR hand and trap SB for a bet. Also, even if PFR 3-bets, SB will probably come along.

Hand 8 if you wanna disguise your king, a flop raise is a decent way to do it. Logically, no one wants to raise the cheap street with such a powerful hand. If you are going to smoothcall, you have to go for a check-raise. If he checks behind on the turn, you weren't going to get anything out of betting out (most of the time).

Hand 9, 3-bet preflop sometimes. Mostly because you don't wanna be blown off a hand that has showdown value. Rest is perfect.

Hand 10 is read dependant. If he is stealing over 35ish then 3betting is good. You don't wanna have this hand be 3-way with you having worst position.

MoDOH

06-12-2005, 05:02 PM

reading through the hands I think it´s fair to say that you are a bit on the weak-tight side. let´s take the last hand for example. this is an easy threebet preflop or if you don´t wan´t to threebet You must CR the flop at least. after that you have to play some poker...

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This one seems especially weak but I as up against a tricky stealer and didn't want to fight on the big streets. I think I should have bet the turn anyways?

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This is where your problem is... You´re playing scared poker... And SH that´s a big no-no... Crank up the aggression level a few more notches and you will be just fine...

You might want to move down in stakes so you feel comfortable doing this...

og5

06-12-2005, 05:10 PM

Well I did work my way through 1/2 and am doing okay so far at 2/4 (though I may be running well) but I think before I progress any farther I need to sharpen my blind play which is no doubt weak tight. When I have position and initiative I think I play decently. (AF is pretty high at 3.6/3.3/2.7) As far as the hand you you pointed out that guy has raised me several times with legitimate hands on the big streets so that's why I layed it down. It is still weak though.