Speaking of blocks....

[Harv72b]

Ideal application of what Gigabet was talking about, or just common sense with the pot odds being offered? This was a 40+4 Half Million Qualifier on Party.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t100 (9 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

<font color="#C00000">SB (t388)</font>
<font color="#C00000">Hero (t1812)</font>
UTG (t1005)
UTG+1 (t1065)
MP1 (t905)
MP2 (t880)
MP3 (t1135)
CO (t550)
<font color="#C00000">Button (t260)</font>

Preflop: Hero is BB with 6/images/graemlins/spade.gif, K/images/graemlins/heart.gif.
<font color="#666666">6 folds</font>, Button calls [t260] , SB calls [t388] t50, Hero calls t288....

[Phill S]

Standard play.

I dont get the blocks thing just yet, give me a few days and ill try and form something on it - or nick someone elses opinion - but i dont think this is what Giga meant.

Phill

[Sabrazack]

I bet Giga is sitting home in his chair laughing at all of you trying to implement his "block theory" into your game.

(Hope this thing doesn't generate thousands of "Was this a good place for a Gigamove?" threads)

[The Yugoslavian]

N/M

Standard...

Yugoslav

[Unarmed]

www.lego.com (http://www.lego.com)

[Moonsugar]

That is: Gigamove(TM)

[Myst]

Yeah, standard... but I think giga's thinking goes deeper than this.

[the shadow]

http://www.lvrj.com/lvrj_home/2001/Apr-03-Tue-2001/photos/block.jpg

[Harv72b]

I guess that the point I was trying to make here is, would this still be a standard call if I was sitting at t812 instead of t1812?

When the hand came up, I thought immediately of the other thread...I had the chip lead, but not a commanding one. In that sense, the t288 that I risk on this hand is pretty much worthless to me at that point; it doesn't gain me any extra folding equity or push me any closer to winning the SNG. But if my stack is smaller, or even average, then it's not worth it to call the extra t288 for me because I need to protect what chips I have, and K6o can't possibly be a favorite here, or even close enough to justify the 3:1 or so pot odds I'm being offered (vs. two opponents).

Forgive the noob questions...I am a relative noob when it comes to MTT/SNG play. This is just a call that I wouldn't have thought to make before reading Gigabet's post.

[Matt R.]

It's a standard call simply because you're getting 2.6:1 on your call and you're going to see all 5 cards, nothing more. I think if you had t812 you'd still have to make the call. Now, if you have t812 and 72o, I think you'd be correct to fold here.

[Matt R.]

By the way, I think it would be an application of what Gigabet was talking about in the last situation I mentioned -- namely if you have t812 and a total trash hand. If you fold, you leave yourself with t712 and are still in okay shape. If you call and lose, you're hurting with t424 and basically crippled. In this scenario the pot odds tell you you should call with any two. However, the actual potential results of the hand are that you are either crippled, in okay shape, or have ~1400 chips. Should you call, chances are you will be crippled. If you happen to win, the extra 700 or so chips you gain are very nice to have, but because you don't have that much more than many other stacks at the table, it won't increase your $EV enough to warrant a call. So this would be an application of Gig's idea, just in reverse to what he was talking about in his example. Disclaimer: I'm not sure I fully understand his idea, but this sounds about right to me.