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count1
06-12-2005, 11:47 AM
The middle position raiser has suddenly become very aggressive over the last few hands. He tried to bluff at a pot earlier and was reraised off his hand. He has continued to raise preflop each hand and I am fairly sure he is on tilt. What I don't like about my play is my appearance as a calling station. I will post the results later. Thanks for any input.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (10 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

MP3 ($94)
CO ($21.15)
Hero ($21.09)
SB ($14.2)
BB ($25)
UTG ($21.28)
UTG+1 ($21)
UTG+2 ($37.2)
MP1 ($8.23)
MP2 ($16.02)

Preflop: Hero is Button with K/images/graemlins/club.gif, T/images/graemlins/club.gif.
<font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 raises to $0.85</font>, MP3 calls $0.85, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls $0.85, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB calls $0.60.

Flop: ($3.50) T/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 2/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 2/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 bets $3</font>, MP3 folds, Hero calls $3, BB folds.

Turn: ($9.50) 4/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">MP2 bets $3</font>, Hero calls $3.

River: ($15.50) 3/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">MP2 bets $6</font>, Hero calls $6.

Final Pot: $27.50

rikz
06-12-2005, 12:29 PM
When the board pairs like this, I don't like to be in the hand for very long without a trip card (or better) in the hole. For example, I really enjoy calling a normal raise in a multi-way pot while holding 67s then flopping 77x to the preflop raiser's overcards. When the preflop raiser has an overpair, I'll usually win quite a bit by the river.

In the hand in question, if villain was tight enought that I put him on AA/KK/QQ/JJ/TT more often than AK/AQ/AJ/KQs/etc., then I would fold to the continuation bet with a ten-high TP2ndK on a paired board on the flop. However, if I put villain as making a missed continuation bet more often than not, then I would raise that continuation bet to $8 on the flop, then check down to the river if called - folding to any serious aggression on the turn or river.

If people call and/or keep betting on a board like this, they generally beat the top card shown, either with an over pair or that third 2 (although with his preflop raise, a 2 in villain's hole cards is unlikely).

Sephus
06-12-2005, 12:46 PM
hero is winning this hand more often than losing it.

Sephus
06-12-2005, 12:50 PM
you can raise the turn and bet small on the river if he calls then checks. you should probably fold if he reraises. when he bets $3 on the turn he's basically telling you KT is good unless this is his plan to reraise you with AA-TT or a 2 or something.

count1
06-12-2005, 01:34 PM
Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (10 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

MP3 ($94)
CO ($21.15)
Hero ($21.09)
SB ($14.2)
BB ($25)
UTG ($21.28)
UTG+1 ($21)
UTG+2 ($37.2)
MP1 ($8.23)
MP2 ($16.02)

Preflop: Hero is Button with K/images/graemlins/club.gif, T/images/graemlins/club.gif.
<font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 raises to $0.85</font>, MP3 calls $0.85, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls $0.85, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB calls $0.60.

Flop: ($3.50) T/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 2/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 2/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 bets $3</font>, MP3 folds, Hero calls $3, BB folds.

Turn: ($9.50) 4/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">MP2 bets $3</font>, Hero calls $3.

River: ($15.50) 3/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">MP2 bets $6</font>, Hero calls $6.

Final Pot: $27.50

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
MP2 has Kh 6s (one pair, twos).
Hero has Kc Tc (two pair, tens and twos).
Outcome: Hero wins $27.50. </font>
Thanks for the advice. I see the logic for the raise on the turn. I had a good feeling I had this guy beat, might as well make him pay if he decides to go further.

DJ Sensei
06-12-2005, 01:44 PM
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hero is winning this hand more often than losing it.

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After looking over the hand a few times, i'm not so sure about that. From the looks of it, hero is either way ahead (villain keeps firing AK, AQ, JTs, 99, etc.) or way behind (AA-TT, AT). However, there are no draws on this board, so its unlikely that villain puts hero on a draw and is making him pay for it. The turn bet does seem weak, but i think villain is more afraid of a 2 than a T. When hero coldcalls the turn as well, he indicates to villain that he probably doesnt have a 2. The river bet says "I can beat you unless you actually have that 2".

So basically, Unless villain is so loose/tilty that he would play JT or T9 or 99 like this, I dont see too many hands that villain could have here that he would keep firing with and not beat KT. The river call is in order because of the good odds you're getting and a 3-1 chance that you're ahead makes it worth the call.

Otherwise, the line is pretty good against a tilty opponent, although i think that hero should raise the turn when villain shows weakness.

On second thought, if he's been raising preflop every hand recently, this may be the best line to take, although i'd still recommend a turn raise.

Sephus
06-12-2005, 02:05 PM
villains range of possible hands is much wider than you think. i don't want to make a big deal about it but you probably needed to pay more attention to the description of villain.