I think I had to put all my chips in here, going for first?

[faquewdikhed]

***** Hand History for Game 2191877571 *****
NL Hold'em $20 Buy-in + $2 Entry Fee Trny:13007459 Level:6 Blinds(150/300) - Saturday, June 11, 18:24:30 EDT 2005
Table Table 14252 (Real Money)
Seat 6 is the button
Total number of players : 4
Seat 5: SAMW303 ( $3230 )
Seat 6: billyg123 ( $360 )
Seat 8: ONGBA ( $3600 )
Seat 10: FaqMeDikhed ( $810 )
Trny:13007459 Level:6
Blinds(150/300)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to FaqMeDikhed [ 5c 9s ]
SAMW303 calls [300].
billyg123 folds.
ONGBA folds.
FaqMeDikhed checks.
** Dealing Flop ** [ 4d, 2c, Td ]
FaqMeDikhed checks.
>You have options at Table 13995 Table!.
SAMW303 bets [300].
>You have options at Table 14262 Table!.
>You have options at Table 13997 Table!.
FaqMeDikhed folds.
SAMW303 does not show cards.
SAMW303 wins 1050 chips
>You have options at Table 13997 Table!.
>You have options at Table 14262 Table!.

[DasLeben]

This one's tough. Smallie plays for just about his whole stack in a couple hands, but you're not looking great either. I'm interested in hearing what some other posters have to say about this hand, since I struggle with these situations a bit too.

I will say one thing though...you're not playing for first anymore. Your sole intent here should be to get ITM.

[Ogre]

I fold

[45suited]

You must be talking about a stop-n-go since surely you know that if you push pre-flop, he's calling you right?

Either way, I prefer the check-fold here.

[faquewdikhed]

I thought that by calling, I would get ITM, because I would just be 1 more hand for the short stack to beat... If I lose, I get 3rd anyways, because I had more chips at the start of the hand.

In this situation, I could have folded and got 2nd, but I had NO idea that 2nd stack was going to go all in also.

[faquewdikhed]

Great job by me... I posted the wrong f***ing hand..

This is the real one.. sorrrrrrryy guys!!!

#Game No : 2191879819
***** Hand History for Game 2191879819 *****
NL Hold'em $20 Buy-in + $2 Entry Fee Trny:13007459 Level:6 Blinds(150/300) - Saturday, June 11, 18:24:59 EDT 2005
Table Table 14252 (Real Money)
Seat 8 is the button
Total number of players : 4
Seat 5: SAMW303 ( $3680 )
Seat 6: billyg123 ( $360 )
Seat 8: ONGBA ( $3450 )
Seat 10: FaqMeDikhed ( $510 )
Trny:13007459 Level:6
Blinds(150/300)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to FaqMeDikhed [ Qc 9c ]
billyg123 is all-In [360]
ONGBA calls [360].
>You have options at Table 13997 Table!.
FaqMeDikhed calls [210].
SAMW303 calls [60].
** Dealing Flop ** [ 4s, Jh, Th ]
FaqMeDikhed checks.
>You have options at Table 14262 Table!.
SAMW303 bets [300].
>You have options at Table 13995 Table!.
ONGBA is all-In [3090]
FaqMeDikhed is all-In [150]
SAMW303 calls [2790].
** Dealing Turn ** [ 2c ]
** Dealing River ** [ Qd ]
SAMW303 shows [ Ts, Jc ] two pairs, jacks and tens.
billyg123 shows [ 3c, Qh ] a pair of queens.
ONGBA shows [ Js, Ad ] a pair of jacks.
FaqMeDikhed shows [ Qc, 9c ] a pair of queens.
SAMW303 wins 5880 chips from side pot #2 with two pairs, jacks and tens.
SAMW303 wins 450 chips from side pot #1 with two pairs, jacks and tens.
SAMW303 wins 1440 chips from the main pot with two pairs, jacks and tens.
billyg123 finished in fourth place.
FaqMeDikhed finished in third place and won $40.
ONGBA finished in second place and won $60.
billyg123 has left the table.
ONGBA has left the table.
FaqMeDikhed has left the table.
Congratulations,SAMW303! You won $100.

[Freudian]

That one is tricky. I would probably fold preflop since two vs smallstack is good enough odds to get into the money.

[Jay36489]

Well small stack is all-in, one big calls, and the other one should call with any 2 for 60 more. Even if you push no one is folding and is Q9s really that great? I think it's fold or push and I would probably fold.

[lastchance]

Yeah, but calling along decreases his odds even more. What if one of them folds postflop to a dumb side pot play? What if they fold postflop?

I want my chips knocking out third place guy there. I think calling along and check-calling accomplishes this best.

[Jay36489]

hmmm... I see the reason for calling it down. If he wins you are screwed as the short stack anyway, so saving those chips is not much help. If you both lose you are still third. If you should win you have a chance. Intersting...

[Freudian]

[ QUOTE ]
Yeah, but calling along decreases his odds even more. What if one of them folds postflop to a dumb side pot play? What if they fold postflop?

I want my chips knocking out third place guy there. I think calling along and check-calling accomplishes this best.

[/ QUOTE ]

I guess one could reason like this: If the other small stack wins the hand you will most likely go out fourth even if you fold. So it is better to call and try to quadruple your stack if you hit a good flop. If you fail, you will still end up third if the other small stack loses. If you succeed you have a shot of making it above 3rd. Besides if smallstack wins and you end up making the second best hand, you still have somewhat of a shot.

Interesting hand.