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jmgurgeh
06-11-2005, 12:23 PM
. . . or am I just charging people with crappy hands? Also posted a KJo hand a little earlier. I've been going over some of my hands where I start off with more marginal holdings to see if my postflop play is leaking money there. Feel free to comment on whatever, I just want advice.

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Preflop: Hero is MP1 with A/images/graemlins/spade.gif, T/images/graemlins/heart.gif.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP3 calls, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, UTG+1 calls.

Flop: (7.50 SB) 9/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, K/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, J/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
UTG+1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 raises</font>, UTG+1 calls, Hero calls.

Turn: (6.75 BB) A/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
UTG+1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 raises</font>, UTG+1 calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, MP3 calls, UTG+1 calls.

River: (15.75 BB) 3/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
UTG+1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, MP3 calls, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 raises</font>, Hero calls, MP3 calls.

Final Pot: 21.75 BB

afk
06-11-2005, 12:35 PM
Eh, I'd probably call down after I get raised on the turn, unless you spike a Queen or something. Turn raises usually mean a strong hand. I wouldn't be surprised if you were behind KJ, K9, J9 or something of the like.

Basically, your turn 3bet is too much, and furthermore don't lead the river. Seeing as you did however 3bet the turn then leading the river isn't so bad.

parappa
06-11-2005, 01:16 PM
I assume you just called on the flop planning to fold to a turn blank. When you're raised on the turn on this horrifying board, your TPWK is very unlikely to be best here and you don't have a ton of clean outs. Just call the raise and check/call the river.

karitek
06-11-2005, 02:37 PM
I don't see why you bet out the flop. You have a gutshot and one overcard, and since the A /images/graemlins/diamond.gif and Q /images/graemlins/diamond.gif are tainted, you have at most 5 outs. You are only getting 7.5:1 from the pot, not the 8:1 you need. Also, you don't want to be raised since you definitely don't want to pay 2 bets to win 9.5.

I'd check/call the flop. Bet out the turn. And call down from there. MP3 has already shown aggression, and turn raises usually mean better than top pair.