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sweetjazz
06-11-2005, 01:38 AM
Reads: both villains are about 35/8/1 players. BB 3-bet me preflop with KQo the previous orbit, if that is at all relevant.

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Preflop: Hero is SB with Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif, Q/images/graemlins/club.gif.
<font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, MP3 calls, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button 3-bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero caps</font>, BB calls, MP3 folds, CO calls, Button calls.

Flop: (17 SB) J/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 4/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 5/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, BB calls, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises</font>, Hero calls, BB calls.

Turn: (11.50 BB) K/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises</font>, Hero ...
mantasm
06-11-2005, 01:39 AM
i can't see doing anything other than folding the turn.
TheDelChop
06-11-2005, 01:46 AM
Easiest. Fold. Ever.
sweetjazz
06-11-2005, 01:54 AM
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Easiest. Fold. Ever.

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Okay, good. I just want to make sure I'm not turning in a weak tightie. I just couldn't see do anything else. I smiled when the board paired low on the river and K9s chopped with K8s. Mmmmmmm 3/6.
brettbrettr
06-11-2005, 12:46 PM
Why didn't you 3-bet the flop?
DCWildcat
06-11-2005, 01:05 PM
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Why didn't you 3-bet the flop?

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sweetjazz
06-11-2005, 01:12 PM
My intention was to go for a check-raise on the turn.

That play risks giving a free card to a diamond draw, though sometimes the LAG players don't even take the free card given the chance (preferring to continue their semi-bluff instead).

But I don't know if the risk is worth it to try to protect my hand against Ax or Kx. Maybe just raising 3-betting the flop for value is optimal here, given my lousy position.
bobhalford
06-11-2005, 01:17 PM
Yes, I think 3-betting the flop is in order. Gives you information, and most likely you have the best hand. With your reads, I think a 3-bet is definitely a good play.