Is this what you do with AQ here?

[Karak567]

Yeah it is a 20 + 2, I am practicing 8-tabling...


***** Hand History for Game 2188639916 *****
NL Hold'em $20 Buy-in + $2 Entry Fee Trny:12990451 Level:2 Blinds(15/30) - Saturday, June 11, 01:14:08 EDT 2005
Table Table 13973 (Real Money)
Seat 7 is the button
Total number of players : 9
Seat 1: mpokerw ( $740 )
Seat 3: bill386 ( $845 )
Seat 5: tampatampa1 ( $1110 )
Seat 8: freedom_75 ( $830 )
Seat 9: NittanyT ( $760 )
Seat 10: tnekjc ( $870 )
Seat 2: sepher28 ( $770 )
Seat 7: Telegra ( $1005 )
Seat 4: HueroXIII ( $1070 )
Trny:12990451 Level:2
Blinds(15/30)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to sepher28 [ Qc As ]
tnekjc folds.
mpokerw folds.
sepher28 calls [30].
bill386 folds.
HueroXIII folds.
tampatampa1 calls [30].
Telegra calls [30].
freedom_75 calls [15].
NittanyT checks.
** Dealing Flop ** [ 6c, 4h, Ah ]
freedom_75 bets [60].
NittanyT calls [60].
>You have options at Table 14253 Table!.
sepher28 raises [250].
tampatampa1 folds.
Telegra folds.
freedom_75 is all-In [740]
NittanyT folds.
sepher28 is all-In [490]

[Karak567]

Anyone?

[freemoney]

i guess, freedom is gonna show you A6 or A4 about 80% of the time id say though.

[NYCNative]

Raising preflop makes this a considerably easier hand to play,

[benza13]

I agree that raising pf makes this play much better. Even with the 800 stacks at Party, you need to raise this up to define your hand. With the play as it is, someone in late position might limp Axs and have hit 2 pair. Of course with the donks at lower levels they might play the hand anyway, but at least you are encouraging them to make a bigger mistake preflop playing these hands.

[Karak567]

I don't like raising AQ pre-flop early game :-(. Oh well, I guess I need to mix it up with this play from now on.

[tminus]

Im limping AQo here, especially this early in a 20.
Im currently in the middle of studying EV math so Im using your hand as an exercise, feel free to correct me if Im wrong:

foes preflop limp and reraise makes his initial flop bet look less like a wheel or flush draw and more like a probe or value bet so im putting him any of the following:

hand his-outs
66 66aa
44 44aa
A4 aa44
A6 aa66

after the reraise the pot is 1215 and you have 490 to call (2.5:1) with these outs: AAAQQ. This makes you 11% (5/47) or 8:1 to hit on the turn.

(11% x 1215) + (89% x -490) = -302.45 EV
AND
if he's holding A4 or A6 then the aces are non outs for you
you still have 490 chips to work with and the blinds are still low

[MastiffPaul]

Given the preceding action, I don't think you can call his push. I rarely if ever have seen this push with a hand that wouldn't beat you here.

[pokerlaw]

I raise PF here if I play this, which I would be doing so long as the table isn't filled with too many maniacs.

If I did limp, I would fold here to the flop action.

By limping here, you then try and "define" your hand via a RR - expending far more chips than you would have if you raised PF. You want to buy the pot right there I figure. problem is, you can be facing all types of hands and a RR puts you in a very sticky situation...not good times.

[tminus]

the problem here is that you can't tell how many maniacs are at the table because its only Level 2 at a $20...

[Karak567]

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the problem here is that you can't tell how many maniacs are at the table because its only Level 2 at a $20...

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And I am playing 7 other tables at the same time... heh.