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SoftcoreRevolt
06-10-2005, 08:24 PM
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Preflop: Hero is CO with K/images/graemlins/club.gif, Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif.
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP1 calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, BB calls, MP1 calls.

Flop: (6.50 SB) 6/images/graemlins/club.gif, Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, T/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, MP1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, BB calls, MP1 calls.

Turn: (4.75 BB) A/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, MP1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, BB folds, MP1 calls.

River: (6.75 BB) 3/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
MP1 checks, Hero checks.

Final Pot: 6.75 BB

At the time I really didn't think a worse hand was calling me very often on this board, and the villain was particularly passive, so I checked behind, but I really think I should have value bet, since even if villain is rarely calling here, he's also probably never check raising, so it seems like a bet is OK now that I've had time to think about it.
oreogod
06-10-2005, 08:34 PM
So if he's rarely calling, its not really a value bet. If there is no chance he will call there is no point of betting.

Now say u were to switch positions, I like a check from MP1. As if u bet, he will fold or raise, or call. If u check, he may check behind, but he could bet, and u call. Its more +EV to check if you are first to act. Well against a more aggressive player it is. Passive play you'd want to bet. Calling station you'd want to bet.
silkyslim
06-10-2005, 08:37 PM
oreogod i found your post confusing. I would value bet this. What do u think villian has? Which busted draw? Was he ace chasing with a crappy kicker? I think he is calling down with a pair lower than yours or with a weaker kicker. He will call on the river IMO
oreogod
06-10-2005, 08:39 PM
OP said he will rarely call. NM misread it.

I did say to bet against a passive/calling station player, though.

Gist of my previous post:
1.Bet against passive/calling stations. (Unless u believe your hand has less than a 50 percent chance of being ahead, in which case a check behind is better)
2.When OOP if u think u have 50 percent chance of having the best hand against an aggressive opponent, its +EV to check.


NM, my post is all screwed up and is just talking about river play in general. Sorry.
afk
06-10-2005, 09:00 PM
Simply put, if you're not betting this river you're not making a lot of extra money.
oreogod
06-10-2005, 09:10 PM
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Simply put, if you're not betting this river you're not making a lot of extra money.

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This post is Hemmingway to my Ulysses.

Much more streamlined, but it was what I was trying to say, just not in readable form.
afk
06-10-2005, 09:12 PM
yeah when i think about what i actually wrote it just sounds weird.


ps. bet. river.