Rules question: split pot on tie?

[AKQJ10]

I recently made a wiki edit to SheridanCat's excellent Beginners FAQ (http://poker.wikicities.com/index.php?title=Beginners_FAQ&diff=171&oldid=159) because I'm 99% sure that suits are not used to break ties for the pot in stud, only to determine the bring-in/order of betting. (I think some cardrooms would use suits to determine who gets the "extra chip" in a pot too, be it stud or another game.) However, now I'm thinking I should fact-check.

Can someone confirm that my edit is correct -- that As Ah Kd 5c 2s and Ad Ac Ks 5d 2c would in fact split the pot?

Sorry for the simple FAQish question - I tried searching for "split pot" which was hopeless, then "split" (as in aces), and decided I'd done due diligence.

[Jeffage]

Those hands would split the pot.

Jeff

[vintage_sara]

even in a flush situation it would be a split pot if all cards are have the same rank high to low akqj9 (suited) 32 hearts vs AKQJ9 (suited) 43 spades.

In a casino suit does not determine who gets the extra chip, either. I think it is the person closest to the right of the dealer but not sure. Anyway there's a rule for it but it is not suit.

[Bartholow]

I've played in casinos where the extra chip was chosen by suit in stud games, because there was no dealer button.

[Bartholow]

I think it was at the old Harrah's in East Chicago, or could be Turning Stone...

[vintage_sara]

lol. Never seen it myself but not too worried about the extra chip. :0)

[AKQJ10]

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In a casino suit does not determine who gets the extra chip, either. I think it is the person closest to the right of the dealer but not sure. Anyway there's a rule for it but it is not suit.

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In most cardrooms, it's the first player to the left of the button in games with a dealer button. I'm not sure about how they determine that in stud, but the other poster's suggestion that suit comes in to play then because of the absence of a button makes sense. Otherwise, if you're basing it off position relative to the actual dealer, then you're biasing it in favor of the 1 seat or the 8 seat or whatever.

But I've seen two other methods in hold 'em at the Borgata and the Tropicana, although I forget which was which. One used the suit of the paired card (or whatever was the winning hand); the other one used the rank of the sixth, non-playing card. Both struck me as a bit hokey and unpokeresque but it's only a $0.50 gain or loss so I suppose I can live it.

At any rate, thanks to all who answered my original question.

[Andy B]

The pot is split. In my local room, any odd chip would go to the hand containing the highest-ranking card by suit, so in this case, the hand with A/images/graemlins/spade.gif would get the odd chip. I think that this is the most common rule, but I doubt that it's absolutely universal. From my reading of The Professional Poker Dealer's Handbook, I guess in some rooms the odd chip goes to the dealer as a toke.

I have seen very few pots split by the same hand, usually two players who have the same flush in different suits, but I don't think I've ever seen an odd chip in either case.