KK in big blind hand, posted for question on post hand commentary

[pdxjayhawk]

Villian is kind of a LAG. Afterwards, he says "Knew you had KK when you checked the flop." So can anyone guess what he had?



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Preflop: Hero is BB with K/images/graemlins/heart.gif, K/images/graemlins/spade.gif.
<font color="#666666">5 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, CO calls.

Flop: (6.33 SB) 3/images/graemlins/spade.gif, K/images/graemlins/club.gif, J/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, CO checks.

Turn: (3.16 BB) 9/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, CO calls.

River: (9.16 BB) J/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises</font>, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 13.16 BB

[ihardlyknowher]

QT. Don't check the flop and he won't know (plus, it is the right play).

[eleventy]

I assume he had JJ or TQ /images/graemlins/club.gif. Why didn't you 3 bet the river?

[sy_or_bust]

Checking the flop is bad.

And you're giving way too much respect on the river. You only lose to QcTc and JJ - most of the time you'll be facing a weaker hand, like KJ, J9, or QT. Easy 3-bet.

[Dangergirl]

I do not like the check on the flop because of the 2 spades. I would have bet out and avoid giving him a free card.

[Rico Suave]

I just don't get it........

Bet the flop

3-bet the river.

sheesh

--Rico

[pdxjayhawk]

Yeah, he had JJ. My question is, if he's such an expert and put me on KK, why is he raising and calling a re-raise with a one outer?

[einbert]

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[Bodhi]

J9?

Why oh why didn't you 3 bet the river?

...and bet the flop!

[Bodhi]

Because he's an idiot?

[private joker]

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nh.

There were so many bets missed in this hand, it's cause for alarm. So he had one of the 2 specific holdings that beat you (J/images/graemlins/diamond.gif J/images/graemlins/heart.gif and Q/images/graemlins/club.gif T/images/graemlins/club.gif). There's no way to know that certain enough not to 3-bet this river.

And missing the flop bet is ludicrous.

[pdxjayhawk]

Bodhi, you and joker are right.

That's why I am glad to have found this place. I should have been ramming this all the way. I would have gone down in flames on this one, but you're right, more times than not I'm leaving an extra BB on the table by not 3 betting the river.

I didn't mind dropping the hand. I just for the life of me didn't get his line on the turn if he thought his set of jacks were losing to a set of kings.

[bozlax]

Because he was actually too busy wiping up his lap when he flopped his set to put you on any hand? The post-hand commentary was him rubbing your nose in it, nothing more.

[jskills]

I guess JJ?

[jason_t]

You are not ready for 3/6.

[jskills]

After three betting pre-flop, why not lead the flop against lag boy? Also, you should be raising the river with third nuts right (only behind JJ and the unlikely QTs)?

Also, he didn't know WTF you had when you checked the flop. It just makes him feel good to act like he did. And as you pointed out, if he really did, he would have folded his set of jacks immediately since he'd know he had ONE out.

[Rico Suave]

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You are not ready for 3/6.

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unnecessary

--Rico

[jason_t]

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You are not ready for 3/6.

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unnecessary

--Rico

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unnecessary

--Jason