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Dr_Jeckyl_00
06-10-2005, 11:10 AM
Were these pushes correct given chip sizes? (3 Hands)

Hand 1
Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t300 (4 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

SB (t4175)
Hero (t1860)
UTG (t650)
Button (t1315)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 2/images/graemlins/club.gif, 2/images/graemlins/spade.gif.
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to t650 (All-In)</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Hero calls t350.

Flop: (t1450) K/images/graemlins/club.gif, 9/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, K/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

Turn: (t1450) Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

River: (t1450) A/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: t1450

Was it correct to call $350 more given the initial all-in by villain? I felt villain was trying to steal given their small stack and that my 22 was strong enough to call (and only $350 more to call)

Hand 2
Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t400 (4 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

Button (t2190)
Hero (t2250)
BB (t930)
UTG (t2630)

Preflop: Hero is SB with T/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 4/images/graemlins/club.gif.
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t2250 (All-In)</font>, BB calls t530 (All-In).

Flop: (t3180) J/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 5/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 3/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 2 all-in)</font>

Turn: (t3180) 9/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 2 all-in)</font>

River: (t3180) 7/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 2 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: t3180

This was not a strong hand, but I was trying to steal... was I greedy, or good push given 1st two folds? Looking back, villain is already in for half his stack (with one round of blinds left), he is probably going to call w/anything....

Hand 3
Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t400 (4 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

Button (t1590)
Hero (t2120)
BB (t1660)
UTG (t2630)

Preflop: Hero is SB with K/images/graemlins/club.gif, Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif.
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t2120 (All-In)</font>, BB calls t1260 (All-In).

Flop: (t3780) 9/images/graemlins/club.gif, 7/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 4/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 2 all-in)</font>

Turn: (t3780) 3/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 2 all-in)</font>

River: (t3780) J/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 2 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: t3780

Again, trying to steal... and I liked my hand... good push?

Villain comes back from t$90 (4 handed) to win 1st place, lucky or poor play by the rest of us?

wulfheir
06-10-2005, 11:34 AM
At an attempt to improve my own game, I'm going to take a crack at a couple of these.

Hand 1.
How did he end up being short stacked? Has he been tight and just blinded down? If so, he might have been waiting to pick up an optimal hand to push. I'm less likely to call this here. Next hand, after the blinds are paid he'll be sitting at t800 and you'll be able to lean on him again.
I fold.

Hand 3.
I don't like limping, a min-raise here is such a significant amount of both your chips that you are essentially in the hand anyways. I push.

Dr_Jeckyl_00
06-10-2005, 11:58 AM
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Hand 1.
How did he end up being short stacked? Has he been tight and just blinded down? If so, he might have been waiting to pick up an optimal hand to push.

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Honestly, this is a leak for me as I tend to not pay attention during levels 1-3 as I am folding almost everything and get so bored... I am usually on the internet or doing something until level 4...

11t
06-10-2005, 12:37 PM
Hand 1: Easy call due to pot odds, you have to invest 350 to potentially win 950. If you had an extremely large stack and could steal at will versus the other 2 while they waited for the short stack to bust than you could fold this. I would call with any 2 in this situation and if I lose try and push my SB.

Hand 2: I hate being in situations like these, the BB could potentially call with any 2 but since hes so short stacked you feel compelled to push him in. Anyways I fold here 100% of the time and try to steal from the bigger stacks who are tryiing to wait for the short stack to bust instead of leaking my chips like this.

Hand 3: I push this 100% of the time, sucks if you ran into something.

spentrent
06-10-2005, 12:49 PM
[ QUOTE ]
Hand 1.
How did he end up being short stacked? Has he been tight and just blinded down? If so, he might have been waiting to pick up an optimal hand to push. I'm less likely to call this here. Next hand, after the blinds are paid he'll be sitting at t800 and you'll be able to lean on him again.
I fold.

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Put yourself is UTG's shoes. He's got to decide whether this hand or his next hand is the one he can make a stand with since he's about to use half his stack for the next BB.

If I find myself in his situation I'm pushing the top 50% hoping to end up in at least a coin flip with the big blind. At this point, his only hope is to get lucky. 22 is a monster for Hero here because of the edge the pot odds are giving him. Even if UTG is the tightest motherfucker this side of the Mississippi, you can't give him credit for AA in this spot.