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ep510
06-10-2005, 04:07 AM
UTG+1: 45/0/0.33 (and has 1.5 BB left after he called my initial bet)
No reads on villian.

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Preflop: Hero is UTG with 9/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 9/images/graemlins/club.gif. MP3 posts a blind of $3. CO posts a blind of $3.
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, UTG+1 calls, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO (poster) 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, BB calls, Hero calls, UTG+1 calls.

Flop: (13.33 SB) A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 6/images/graemlins/club.gif, 9/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG+1 calls, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises</font>, BB folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, UTG+1 calls, CO calls.

Turn: (11.16 BB) 7/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG+1 calls, CO calls.

River: (14.16 BB) K/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG+1 calls, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises</font>, Hero?
mantasm
06-10-2005, 04:11 AM
3 bet, it looks exactly like AK, why would he raise the flop with KK
Jeff W
06-10-2005, 04:13 AM
Easy 3-bet.
Stack
06-10-2005, 04:32 AM
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3 bet, it looks exactly like AK, why would he raise the flop with KK

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Evigt_Drabbad
06-10-2005, 05:25 AM
Easy 3-bet. Hard to put him on KK and if he had AA he would have showed more strenght on turn.
mantasm
06-10-2005, 05:34 AM
Another thought, maybe instead of three betting the flop you could call then try and bet/3bet the turn. If you 3bet the flop, there's a good chance you knock out utg, so you miss his flop bet and turn bet, and if you get to 3bet the turn you make even more skrilla.
brettbrettr
06-10-2005, 10:40 AM
Raise. He's got AK.
daftdg
06-10-2005, 10:48 AM
While this sure does look AK, isnt a KK a possible holding here?
JerseyTom
06-10-2005, 12:20 PM
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While this sure does look AK, isnt a KK a possible holding here?

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Sure it's possible, but AK is more probable based on combinations and the way the hand has played out. 3-bet it! You might even get UTG+1 to throw in his last 1.5 BB...

If you get shown KK, oh well... next hand.


Tom
ihardlyknowher
06-10-2005, 12:32 PM
3-bet.
flair1239
06-10-2005, 12:38 PM
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While this sure does look AK, isnt a KK a possible holding here?

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Yes it is. But with the PF action and the flop action, it is very difficult for the villian to put the hero on a set. Remember, hero did not cap pf, so villian is not putting us on AA or KK. Also depending on his thought process he might not even consider 99 in our range of hands. So from his perspective he has just mad the probable best hand.


The only thing I don't like, is if he did have AK, and raises the tiver with Top two pair. What is he putting us on?

Is he thinking hero raised A9s. If he thought we had a hand like AQ, I think we would have seen more turn action, being that the pot was still three-way at that point. It seems a little weird to me that he is raising what must be in his mind a split pot situation. However, it might be in his mind to get an overcall from the player trapped in the middle.
eleventy
06-10-2005, 12:42 PM
With no read keep betting. Set over set doesn't exist in limit.