When Someone Bets on the Overcard Turn

[toss]

All I know about UTG+1 is thats he bit more loose. Maybe. Other are unknowns.

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Preflop: Hero is MP1 with 9/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Button calls, SB calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls.

Flop: (9 SB) 5/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 3/images/graemlins/club.gif, 9/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, UTG+1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, Button calls, SB calls, UTG+1 calls.

Turn: (6.50 BB) J/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 bets</font>...

Just credit him for the J or raise and check behind on the river?

[crunchy1]

I raise. Fold out the other two players and take the free showdown.

[CashFlo]

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I raise. Fold out the other two players and take the free showdown.

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agreed.

[UVaHoo]

Do you still make this play if you know the guy is loose/passive? What else would he be betting here other than the jack?

[cold_cash]

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Do you still make this play if you know the guy is loose/passive? What else would he be betting here other than the jack?

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The Jack and a 9. /images/graemlins/smirk.gif

[toss]

If I knew he was loose passive then I'm more likely to fold, but this ones for the most part is unknown. Confused, I ended up donkishingly calling and olfd the river (Don't ask me why). Its more easier to to play good poker on the boards than in the heat of the moment.

[UVaHoo]

That is most definitely true. I'm always amazed at the board's eagerness to fold extremely strong hands that I would never be able to fold during actual play.

[MCS]

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Its more easier to to play good poker on the boards than in the heat of the moment.

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Ain't that the truth.

This is a situation where I always think, "He doesn't have the jack" and spew bets. I think I fold. If he has the jack, you do have 5 outs which should be clean, so it's close. But since he will probably bet the river...I don't know. I just see a lot of ways you're beat without odds to call.

He could be slowplaying a set or something too, though I concede it's unlikely.

I'm also not as convinced as everyone else that a raise gets you a free showdown.