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brettbrettr
06-09-2005, 11:35 PM
Perhaps I should have bet the turn. I normally do HU with a draw, but for some reason I didn't here. 40 hands with Villan, he's very loose, very passive.

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Preflop: Hero is MP1 with J/images/graemlins/heart.gif, K/images/graemlins/diamond.gif.
UTG calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">5 folds</font>, BB calls, UTG calls.

Flop: (6.33 SB) T/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 9/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 8/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, BB folds, UTG calls.

Turn: (5.16 BB) 4/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
UTG checks, Hero checks.

River: (5.16 BB) A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>,
crunchy1
06-09-2005, 11:37 PM
Easy fold. Villian is loose passive. You took your free card and missed. Calling down with K-high against a player you only have a marginal read on is bad.
Nick C
06-09-2005, 11:45 PM
In spots like this, where I checked the turn with outs and then the inevitable bet came on the river after I missed, I often want to call too. And I think maybe I should, more often than I do.

However, in this particular case, when your very passive opponent already led into you on the flop and led again on the river after an ace fell, all despite your preflop raise, I doubt you'd be good often enough.
toss
06-09-2005, 11:46 PM
I don't think you'll be winning against a Loose passie here much. I'd fold.
CashFlo
06-09-2005, 11:48 PM
I'd probably call out of stubborn-ness/curiosity.

of course, i'd be wrong.
private joker
06-10-2005, 01:18 AM
Villain whiffed a check-raise on the turn. Fold. The times he has a pair here outnumber the times he's on a total bluff. I can't see K-high being good 1/6 of the time. Maybe 1/10th?
pokerstudAA
06-10-2005, 01:32 AM
Ugh - fold....whiffed on the free card and have K high. I cannot think of a hand you beat here.

Bettting the turn might not be so bad. You might get a fold. If not - You have alot of outs. 3 king outs, 4 Q outs, and 4 7 outs. Your Jacks might not be good. 11 outs+J's. Betting the turn here might be alot better. You will probably get a free showdown on the river with your K high if you miss.