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JackThree
06-09-2005, 04:43 PM
loose table
Party Poker 0.5/1 Hold'em (9 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

Preflop: Hero is SB with J/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, A/images/graemlins/spade.gif.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 raises</font>, CO calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 folds, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, MP3 calls, CO calls.

Flop: (17 SB) 6/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 5/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 7/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, MP1 calls, MP2 folds, MP3 calls, CO calls.

Turn: (10.50 BB) 8/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, MP1 calls, MP3 folds, CO calls.

River: (13.50 BB) T/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, MP1 checks, CO checks.

Final Pot: 13.50 BB

ClaytonN
06-09-2005, 04:46 PM
Fold preflop, imo

The whole hand is very 'meh'.

Jaran
06-09-2005, 04:46 PM
I'm folding pf, unless you have a read you're not telling us about.

-Jaran

sean c
06-09-2005, 04:50 PM
I'm cold calling pre flop your position sucks the field is large. I also think the flop plays easier if you cold call. My plan would be c/r pre flop raiser if the flop hits me.

JackThree
06-09-2005, 04:50 PM
i raised b/c lots of callers + loose player

Jaran
06-09-2005, 04:52 PM
The key is not whether he has loose calling standards, but whether he has loose raising standards. A lot of players who are too loose when calling are actually right on as far as their raising (foregoing positional considerations)

-Jaran

666shooter
06-09-2005, 05:10 PM
Fold PF.

AlmightyJay
06-09-2005, 05:14 PM
Fold preflop. That 3-bet is terrible.

JackThree
06-09-2005, 05:17 PM
so postflop is perfect?

and why fold preflop btw, i'm not too clear on that

Jaran
06-09-2005, 05:23 PM
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and why fold preflop btw, i'm not too clear on that

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What range of hands do you put him on after his raise? Which of these hands do you want to play AJo against?

-Jaran

JackThree
06-09-2005, 05:26 PM
i raised because all the callers were in there, i would usually fold that against a raise, i wasn't concerned with what hand the raiser had, does that outweigh dragging in all that dead money?

Jaran
06-09-2005, 05:32 PM
You have to beat the raiser to take the dead money, don't you? Sure, you are prolly ahead of the limpers, but making 2nd best hand can be very expensive.

-Jaran

IPSC
06-09-2005, 06:05 PM
You should not be raising this preflop. There are 3 limpers, 1 raiser, and a coldcaller. You do not have an equity edge with this hand. It is not worth paying 1.75 SB to call with this hand either. The chance that you are dominated is just to great.

I would of bet the flop like you did since the pot is huge at this point, but when the fourth straight card hits I'm check folding the turn.

Bungler
06-09-2005, 06:14 PM
I agree w folding preflop. AJ just isn't strong enough to three bet with, unless perhaps against an open raise, but even then I personally still fold.

As is I'm not sure the flop bet will accomplish anything all. Straight and flush draws are coming along no matter what. I might check/call the flop and probably check/fold the turn.

JackThree
06-09-2005, 06:24 PM
i agree with all that is said above, i need to read ssh a fourth time